It all sounds like anthropomorphism to me. I don't get that the universe would
be so interested in us that it provides a recording service.
Belly laugh of the morning, thanks Sal!
life without chocolate cake isn't higher at all.
I will amend that statement only to the extent of replacing "chocolate cake"
with coffee ice cream.
From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
Well, there are detailed accounts of individuals accessing the Akashic Records
, but in a subjective, non verifiable way.
Hence, here at least, I don't think you have anyone lobbying for its existence.
I have read enough accounts to make me believe it exists. On the other hand, I
have always enjoyed reading accounts of this sort, so it is always of interest.
And, of course, what is said to be far fetched, or impossible at one point in
time, has become the reality, and commonplace little farther down the line.
It all sounds like anthropomorphism to me. I don't get that the universe would
be so interested in us that it provides a recording service.
It's a nice idea though, I'd like to access the record of what happened on my
25th birthday so my autobiography will be complete.
Speaking of unexplained phenomena in the here and now, what would you make of
something like this?
First of all, consider the source.
Second, people can't live without burning calories, try it if you like - but
not for long.
Third, every other recent case of people living on air or sunlight has turned
out to be a fraud.
Four, why do people think it amazing or spiritual if people could live on fresh
air? I think it's because this would be an outward symbol of inner changes that
we don't understand. That eating is some sort of attachment and that they are
now connected to some higher source that sustains them. It doesn't appeal to me
anyway, life without chocolate cake isn't higher at all.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote :
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I agree with Michael, that the idea seems to be woo bullshit. In a scientific
system (physics) the differential equations can show the state of a system
past, present, and future, if you have some data to plug in, but the
indeterminacy effect of the statistical uncertainty in quantum mechanics makes
dredging up the past or predicting the future fuzzy. Also in Woo-land the
mechanics of how 'akashic records' could be accessed does not seem to be
described with any particular clarity. The only really certain thing is the
strong belief that people have in what they imagine to be true.
It seems to me the universe has properties that prevent us from finding out
stuff beyond a certain level of detail. For example, the speed of light
prevents us from knowing what is happening in distant galaxies now, we only can
see the way they were millions of years ago.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
As usual, you are pretty funny Michael.
Of course there have been numerous references to the Akashic Records before
Madame Blavatsky, they just didn't call them, the Akashic Records.
Does that mean they are real?
I don't hear anyone claiming they are, do you?
But, with your permission, perhaps we can discuss the possibility.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
Might you be willing to entertain the idea that the akashic records are just
some esoteric bullshit that well meaning new age bullshiters made up, even if
they really believed in their existence? I definitely include C Lutes in the
ranks of esoteric new age bullshiters -for all his connections with Marshy and
his declaration of being enlightened, he was as much of a fringe guy as anyone
who ever gave a lecture
Doesn't seem to be any record of akashic records before Blavatsky and her
theosophical kooks - they made it up. Good for psychics and other readers who
purport to read them for folks, always for a fee of course.
From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics?
Charlie Lutes liked to talk a lot ofabout it but I've read a number of others
on the subject. Ididn't find them varying much in the description.
Scientifically,if we radiate electrical impulses those might get caught in
somekind of "ether" or "celestial realms". This is something that hasnot been
researched much.
This would mean that human beings are a "terminal" to a cosmiccomputer. :-D
On 06/28/2015 02:17 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:
whichakashic record you talkin' about? there are quite a fewdepending on
which new age whacko you consult for yourrecords
From:"Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]"<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:06 PM
Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines KnowEthics?
Theintellect is binary so not that hard tomodel. It is yes or no. A US
Berkeleystudent did a graduate paper which Iread back in the 1990s. I had
suggestedthis to our development team before thepaper was published and one of
theproject leads came across it. I recallthe student got some interesting
andunexpected results with his model.
Neural networks are a way of learning. They've been around for awhile. Mybooks
probably date back to the 1980s. But what if our brains are reallynothing more
than receiver/transmittersthat communicate with the "akashicrecord"? Yeah, a
bit "woo-woo" maybebut could indeed be a possibility. Might explain some things.
On 06/28/2015 12:01 PM, anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Everythingis debatable. In an ironic sort ofway, artificial intelligence
doesapply to humans. I often think ofyou as having artificialintelligence.
Attempting toreplicate human intelligence hasso far failed because the
humanneural network of connexions is socomplex. Many researchers
areinvestigating insect intelligence,which is a simpler model to try
tounderstand. That Google paper wasinteresting. Here is one of theconversations
from that originalpaper:
Human:what is the purpose of life?Machine:to serve the greater good.Human:what
is the purpose of living?Machine:to live forever.Human:what is the purpose
ofexistence?Machine:to find out what happens when weget to the planet
earth.Human:where are y! ou now?Machine:i'm in the middle of nowhere.Human:what
is the purpose of dying?Machine:to have a life.Human:what is the purpose of
beingintelligent?Machine:to find out what it is.Human:what is the purpose of
emotions?Machine:i don't know.
Iattached the original paper, ANeural Conversational Model,to this post.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<jr_esq@...>wrote :
Xeno,
I had to take a double-taketo understand what you'resaying. You seem to be
sayingthat humans are machines too. That's debatable. In thiscontext, we're
talking aboutartificial intelligence whichdoes not apply to humans.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<anartaxius@...>wrote :
Of coursewe can. The query to beanswered is whether itis worth the
computingtime and the bother ofimplementation.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<jr_esq@...>wrote :
One machinesaid NO...which iscorrect. It'sdatabase was basedon movie scripts.
But if thedatabase includedphilosophical andethicsdiscussions, themachine could
havegotten the correctanswer from thosediscussions. Evenif it got thecorrect
answer,the machine stilldoes not know whatit said.
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