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---In [email protected], <steve.sundur@...> wrote : I give people a lot of leeway in what they choose to believe, without me having to judge them as one thing or another. It seems to me that Doug has found a "seam" of gold amidst the coal that he chooses to mine, so to speak. How, or what, people are able to reconcile is their business. Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. And against all odds, I find him the moderator of the group, and you take away the extremes on both ends of the spectrum (as has happened) and I'm pleased with the results. I hope the moderating will continue along the lines it has been going. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. Funny that, two have been stopped from posting but I don't see too many abandoning ship as I had predicted to Rick privately when Doug was to take over the moderation of FFL. It actually amazes me that so many have stayed posting here. I think Xeno is just snoozing. He's only been asleep about 9 hours now. Without extremes and contrast you just get left with the banal middle ground and it stops new ideas getting discussed because they are unlikely to fit in with what the quiet majority wants and thinks to raise as topics itself. Everything slumps towards the safe boredom that drove Xeno away. I disagree, there are plenty of differing opinions here still. Remember, there are only two posters who are no longer allowed to post. Were they the only ones capable of "extremes"? Frankly, Edg is holding his own pretty good and he's great reading. You can't possibly be bored with him around. Engage him - see what happens. What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? At the risk of you accusing me of pandering, I find it difficult to watch John Hagelin discuss anything. Actually, I am okay with some of his theories, (I don't pay much attention to them), but rather it is the presentation that makes me cringe. The voice inflections and expressions are quite a turn off. The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are "okay" with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... You sounded like an appeaser last week, staying quiet for the sake of a quiet life. That never ends well. ---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote : ---In [email protected], <steve.sundur@...> wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings. Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL! I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects groups that have a strong "world saving" focus, when it all goes wrong and turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many problems that it isn't supposed to have. And you think his dislike of us "apostates" is reasonable? It always sounded scary to me. And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he might do that as well. ---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote : snip That's why he hates this place and all its "apostates" because we remind him that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of the fanatic. Or, if you prefer an emotional argument: This sick fuck makes me nauseous just to look at him....his vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on domination. 2. Financial criminal. The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a decades-long history of crimes. Large amounts of money go unaccounted. In lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal instead of accepting him as an honest person. He shows zero motivation to explain how and why he deserves his present position. The TMO's books are vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be inspected. 3. Rapist. The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish raped a woman. END OF STORY. Girish should resign. Why? Because: Rama and Sita. Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued. FALSELY, but Rama sent her to hell because "A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or convicted of sexual crimes. Yet the TMO ignores these vile "blackeyes." Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said "Fuck your fame.....I'm your monster guru now.....suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and your shit jobs at MUM." He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too. Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh ogi Ved... View on www.freepressjournal.in http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Preview by Yahoo
