I cited the tech industry which doesn't have any unions. In fact most startups and companies wanted avoid unions so they learned to treat the workers well with free food and even rec rooms to blow off steam. In return they turned some of their young fools into tech monks. However research by places like HP (before Carly ruined the place) showed that working more than 50 hours a week was counter productive. Google will hire a college grad for their "sandbox" but if they don't produce in a year they're gone and probably hoping to get a job as a barista at Starbucks. Nothing funnier than watching a young tech geek trying to make your drink. In one case I cracked up when the assistant manager told the noobie geek that "this isn't a chemistry lab" when he wanted to "exactly" measure things. The assistant manager then turned to me and (rolling her eyes) said "pray for me." :-D

Sounds to me you like slavery. Yeah some unions have become an end in themselves. Tell me about it. The American Federation of Musicians became a place for not too good players could get a get a gig carrying around a briefcase and feeling self important while getting so far behind the times even city symphony orchestras dropped out of it.

On 12/27/2015 09:43 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
You left out a couple of other conditions as to why it is cheaper to do business overseas. Not just government regulation but also taxation and Unions. Union demands have been unreasonable in many cases. Many unions make so many demands that businesses just find it worthwhile to shut down here and reopen in a foreign country and ship their products back here. Unions drove the textile industry out of the US and overseas many years ago. The same is going for various other manufacturing industries. Who was it, Boeing, that wanted to move their operations from Washington state to North or South Carolina where they would be in a right to work state. As far as I remember Obama put a stop to that.



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*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:32 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

No, the rope in this tug-a-war just needs to be pulled to a little too the left. It's gone too far right and so far into the hands of the 0.001%. Even a lot "conservatives" dislike that. You seem to be one of the few still stuck in this "rich good, poor bad" Tarzan think that 0.001%'er Rupert Murdoch promotes.

And Mike, the guy I do some software projects for started outsourcing several years ago. It had nothing to do with government regulations because software development is pretty much "hands off" when it comes to government. It's just that the cost of living in some of these countries is lower and so these companies can charge far less for a project yet their workers still live well. The high cost of living in the US is out of whack and artificial due to credit. Economists will tell you the last time it was in balance was the mid 1970s. Back then you could still earn minimum wage yet enjoy life.

On 12/27/2015 08:08 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Raul Castro? Is this some kind of straw man argument? Your entire Democratic party is advocating socialism without using the word. Bernzie being the exception. They all want the same thing, total government control by taxation or regulation. Obama and Clinton are only centrists from a Bernzie Sander's point of view. You're not in favor of *handouts* but.... we don't hand out enough. Right! Quite frankly, it's cheaper to do business over seas than the US due to government regulation, taxation and union demands, more Democratic meddling.



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*From:* "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <mailto:olliesed...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]> <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

"the far left"??!? As in similar in political outlook to say, Raul Castro of Cuba?? And who, exactly, in the US Government, has advocated, or worse, acted on, such an ideological vision? I am pretty confident I can wait here for days without a name from you, even down to the level of city dogcatcher, because *they don't exist*.

Obama is a centrist, like Clinton was. The only difference is the color of his skin. His concern over the demise of social programs is well founded, when our previous President advocated the destruction of Social Security. "Put it all in the stock market", he and his cronies said, and he would have, but he had no mandate from Congress. A good thing, as we would have had millions in the street when the market crashed.

I am not in favor of handouts, but the current Republican domestic philosophy, and tax policy, seems to be, "I got mine, screw you", justified on the basis of some waste and corruption wrt social services programs. A very cold-hearted way of thinking, and obviously biased when no such scrutiny is applied to say, military programs, or corporate welfare.

The Republicans scream about losing American jobs, while advocating constantly for ways to ship jobs overseas. It is ironic that the only thing keeping our economy afloat are all the cheap products from China, the Far Left, Communist nation, on which our continued prosperity depends. Calling Obama "far left" is quite funny from that perspective, as it is the Republicans who are driving us further into China's hands.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <awoelflebater@...> <mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mdixon.6569@...> <mailto:mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, you make an awful lot of assumptions here. You assume that, because a person in congress opposes the policies of the *far left*, that they are racist and that they oppose those policies because the person implementing them has dark skin. How simple minded can you get? If you are white, I would have to believe that you are seriously suffering from *white guilt* and trying to absolve yourself by leveling such a charge.Next year, the excuses will be that we need a *woman* to lead the country and if elected and she faces any resistance, it will be because she's female in a patriarchal society. This is meant to appeal to the base instincts of the *low information* voter, an appeal to the emotions of the ignorant. Damn the fact that these very policies have driven poverty higher than ever, that black unemployment levels are the highest in decades, more people are on government assistance than ever. Damn the fact that our current president has more than doubled the national debt of all other presidents before him with nothing to show for it, that we owe much of that debt to China. That money generating businesses are leaving our country in droves. Damn the fact that he threw hard fought, won and costly victories back to our enemies that has embolden them, That our once stable allies don't trust the word of our leaders. That once dangerous terrorists that had been locked up have been returned to the battle field to continue killing again. Damn the fact that he opens our borders to whoever wants to come here, without due process, driving down wages for our own citizens, while subsidizing the substandard wages of the * illegal immigrants* with government social program hand outs that cost all other tax payers. Damn the fact that because of him, the people have put more Republicans in office than any time since the end of the civil war with nothing to show for it because they fear being labeled *racist* and give him just about anything he wants including another trillion dollar plus budget this year. Ollie, you have got to be kidding me! You are one of these low information voters that have drunk the Kool-aide. Of course, any one with a brain can figure out that the purpose of these policies is to bring about a complete collapse of the current social and economic system in place and replacing it with the purest form of socialism which will not redistribute wealth but redistribute poverty and suffering. Be careful of what you wish for. The *right* is armed and dangerous and will only tolerate so much of the left's shenanigans.

This is exactly the mindset, the one that you voice here, that scares the bejeebers out of me, Mike. Add that to the fact that you claim those "on the right" are "armed and dangerous" isn't lessening this feeling I have. That's all America needs, is a bunch of Kool Aid drunk right wingers emerging from their villages with flaming torches, pitchforks and no teeth (thanks to unaffordable health and dental) and screaming for banishment of those seeking asylum in the US and to rid the country of "socialistic" programs. You live in a dreamworld, Mike. Not one thing you say here is, I believe, true but it sure gives me a glimpse into one mindset present day US residents have and it is fear driven.



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*From:* "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <mailto:olliesedwuz@...[FairfieldLife]> <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2015 4:03 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Trumpies hate the Media

Please put me on your list too. Barack Obama is one of our better Presidents. I find it appalling that the many racists in the US Congress see fit to obstruct him, simply because of the color of his skin. Anyway, just for you old white racists, I would LOVE it if we had another black man (or a black woman for a change) for President, only this time, two black parents, and that beautiful dark, dark skin and full lips. I hope whomever it is, they give you a big bear hug, a wet kiss on the cheek, and knock that silly pillow case off your pointed little head.

Merry Christmas to you, and in the TRUE spirit of Jesus Christ, May God Bless Barack Hussein Obama!!!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <emptybill@...> <mailto:emptybill@...> wrote :


*/Someone's "principle political view" is irrelevant if their personhood stinks./**/

/**That iswhat shills like**//**Oprah claimed about “The One”. Only he was /not/ presented as a “stinking personhood” but rather as a unifying saint. *
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*This is why Em’ likes him … wondrous /Barack Osama/, the great divider. He is the epitomee of the political liar – promising to unite all while following the plan of Saul Alinsky (Radical Marxist/Apostate Jew): *
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*/“Lest we /**/forget/**/at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”/*
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*/“What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. The Prince <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince> was written by Machiavelli <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli> for the Haves on how to hold power. /**Rules for Radicals**/is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away."/*
*/Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky/***
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*Chanukistani proly double votes … both Canadian and US elections. What do you expect from a dual? Em’ proly votes for whomever sounds most neo-Marxist. *
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*I say - /hypocrite swine/ … give up your possessions and give it all away. Problem is the swine only want to give away other people’s rights and possessions. *
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*Don’t worry though - Hillary will show them! *
*After all, she’s a self-professed lover of Alinsky too. *













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