Emily, congrats on my old home state feeling the Bern!
On 03/27/2016 09:37 AM, emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on
refugees that are being allowed to come here, it's incredible. You
simply never adjust your position to reflect the facts; you rigidly
adhere to what you *think* and then wallow in self-righteousness,
despite all evidence to the contrary. Fascinates me, really, as so
many, like you adopt this different perception of reality. Your mind
seems a very frightened place.
Facts about the Syrian Refugees
<http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/>
image <http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/>
Facts about the Syrian Refugees
<http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/>
The Paris bombings and other recent terrorist attacks have given rise
to a political debate within the United States about the Obama
administration’s plan ...
View on www.factcheck.org
<http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/>
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you
show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A
picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have
to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless
bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They
will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There
is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how
or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is
infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be
terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent,
misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are
convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many
women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he
has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can
*change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have
a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is
inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on
neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down.
Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the
oil rich countries should be able to handle it.
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*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy
person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor
himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day
and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a
victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how
he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that
helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic
oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead
doctor doesn't heal anyone!
I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings
again.
No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation
of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic
photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the
part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can
either accept it or not. You can either turn away or not. You can
either put yourself mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation
or not and try and understand the fear, the uncertainty, the
devastation. You can realize that other humans seeking refuge from
such horrendous war conditions need help or you might not. You could,
certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings coming to this big
country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and more
humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of
as "America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or
willingness or unwillingness to accept this possibility which
determines your status as either compassionate or narrow and small -
living in fear and constriction.
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*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All
emotion. Such pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to
evoke compassion , for those affected, the desire to help. Nothing
wrong with that! Just don't create more and bigger problems with the
solution! Don't destroy what you have in the name of helping others
out of their unfortunate circumstances.
Mike, these images are what they are. They aren't "designed" to do
anything - they are what is happening, they are not staged or
embellished. Bombed out cities really exist in Syria, real blood is
being spilled, families are being decimated. This isn't some fiction
made up in Hollywood - these are images captured on camera by journalists.
Your final sentence is self serving and remarkably selfish. Don't
inconvenience yourself or threaten your own comfort by putting
yourself out for others who are in danger of losing their lives. No
siree, let's just make sure we all have our daily bread and our
creature comforts and the rest of those poor sods be damned; fend for
yourselves you unlucky bastards.
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*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"
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*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2016 8:51 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind.
One should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate
without thinking things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we
are all mind and intellect, we lose our full potential as humans.
There needs to be a balance.Maharishi said Arjuna had a rare balance
of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight and kill his own
family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not doing
his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma.
Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both
culturally and physically, new locations that cause conflict for
everyone involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU.
Europeans are rethinking what they have done and realizing being open
and unconditionally welcoming without thinking things through wasn't
the smartest move for either migrants or their local populations.
There have got to be better ways that have not been explored yet.
Well, when you think of what those "better ways" might be have a look
at what these fellow human beings are fleeing from/dealing with.
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*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans
brought them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will
have any affect on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but
little on theirs. If you want to be served, you must first serve.
Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served is going to serve you back.
Indeed , he may serve you with a knife in your back. Another wise man
said "Trust but verify". These migrants aren't being vetted. There is
little or no verification of their true intent or what they expect to
give or receive from their newly adopted countries. What is their
capacity to get along?
Here is what I say: stop focusing on the Muslims/Syrian immigrants and
take note of your neighbors, your country, your fellow Americans.
There is enough violence, ignorance, intolerance, religious
zealousness and threat to keep you busy without worrying about other
countries, other cultures. There is not a continent, a race or a
society that is without its fanatics, its desecrations, its cruelty.
My point was really about how the Pope is one Christian who practices
what he preaches, who is not a hypocrite. The amount of "Christians"
in the USA who fail miserably at demonstrating the same spirit as this
current Pope is astounding. ISIS is one thing, the rest of it is quite
another. The inability to recognize this is not only crippling but
disastrous.
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*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:21 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
I love this guy.
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416
Drumpf wants to build walls and deport and the Pope washes and kisses
their feet instead. Guess what is the most disarming, breaks down
hatred faster?
