--- jim_flanegin wrote:
>
> enlightenment does not adhere 
> to ANY tradition. It is what it is. Period.

I've been given to understand that enlightenment 
changes quite a bit from one spiritual tradition to 
another. I'm told, for instance, that Buddhists 
disagree with Hindus on key points, and when 
their adherents attain end states they call awakening 
or enlightenment, the attainees describe their 
experiences differently from one another but 
consistent with their traditions.

Native Americans have no such states in their 
traditions, suggesting enlightenment is not 
something that all traditions recognize.

View determines fruit, as Vaj quoted a master 
as saying. Or as Dana Sawyer says, precept 
determines percept.

I'm not sure if I'm disagreeeing with you here, Jim. 
I don't know enough about either side of the discussion. 
I'm simply expressing some cognitive dissonance with 
the statement that enlightenment does not adhere to 
any tradition.







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