--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 16, 2005, at 8:41 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote:
> 
> > The other thing is -- and this is the more cogent
> > point -- I believe we manifest *whatever* we believe.
> 
> I believe you answered your own question.

Come to think of it, another theme that MMY has 
hammered is just this -- we create our own realities.

After I posted the remark above that "we manifest 
*whatever* we believe," I asked myself, what about 
science? Science does suggest there are natural 
laws that limit the extent to which I can manipulate 
creation, even if I can fool myself into believing what 
science disproves. I may be able to convince myself 
there's ample evidence for a given worldview, but 
good science can determine whether my anecdotal 
evidence is valid.

So, two things: actual physical manifestation, and 
magical thinking.

When Dana Sawyer says "precept determines percept," 
he's suggesting these notions of enlightenment are 
magical thinking -- constructs of the mind.

When you, Vaj, say View determines outcome, you're 
referring more to a concrete outcome, a real thing, 
as opposed to a construct of the mind. Yes?







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