--- In [email protected], johnlasher20002000 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What if the Guru that gave it to you is not enlightened or uses a
> student (TM teacher) to give it. I noticed when people asked Ama ji
> she differentiated between those taught directly by MMY or those
> taught be a tm teacher.
> 
Doesn't make a difference because the puja tunes the teacher's heart 
to Shiva/Guru Dev. Oops, "IMHO"- whew!

 
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > At one time I would have believed this but I have serious 
doubts 
> > at 
> > > this point. It would certainly be to the advantage of a guru 
(or 
> > all 
> > > gurus) to propagate this belief: this way you can always be 
> > beholden 
> > > to the guru. 
> > 
> > Not really- just have to learn the mantra from one. Then you're 
on 
> > your own...
> > > 
> > >  In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Without the shakti of the guru, a mantra, while having
> > > > some effects, will not produce them same effect as a
> > > > mantra that has been "charged" with shakti. MMY even
> > > > mentioned this once when asked if people who read one
> > > > of the TM mantras from a newspaper and start to
> > > > meditate with it would experience any benefits. He
> > > > said they would, but it would be very slow. 
> > > >
> >
>






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