Hmmmmm....so this is talking of a "relative you." Good explanation. Thanks.
So what you are saying is that the "relative you" is not the author of one's actions. Theoretically or philosophically you may be correct—the word "author" can be defined using different contexts, as you note. Really, it seems that what you are saying is that the "relative you" is not the *only* author....that the cause of one's actions, or author, is attributable to many considerations. Considering the gunas as primary qualities or elements could implicate them also as causal elements in a relative you, psychologically, and tangibly in a physical you. Still, given the "relative free will" that one has in choosing the "relative deeds" that one does, the "relative you" is still author (and agent) of one's "relative actions" with respect to this "relative incarnation" on this "relative planet." Yes? I have recently been pondering this term "True self." I haven't looked it up or done any real reading on it or anything, but I wonder what it means? Seems like there is such a push to discover such a thing. ---In [email protected], <yifuxero@...> wrote : There's a problem with the notion of a "you". The relative you and me doesn't end at the skin. There are countless karmic antecedents and interactions with contributing influences. To use an analogy, say there's a tiny whirlpool at the edge of a larger stream. The whirlpool merges with the Total stream in a transitionary way such that we can't establish exactly where the whirlpool begins and ends. The entire stream is actually the cause of the whirlpool (the latter being a part). Saying the Gunas is more accurate than saying a "you" since the relative you l is like the tiny whirlpool. At times, the tiny whirlpool may grow larger with smaller pools growing around It. Therefore, causation is difficult to assign to a particular body independent of the whole., although it's true that that "That" particular body did most of the acting, and is thus an agent. ......But not an completely independent agent. the Vegas shooter was a tiny whirlpool in the midst of a strem, sucking in thousands of people in a chain of causation. All of the causes (as Gunas), came together in that guy, Stephen. Yes, he's the agent, but along with countless other contributing factors. The totality of those causes manifest as Gunas and is a larger type of whirlpool. The energy was simply focused on his body while he fired those bullets. SHALOM However, given the free will that we supposedly have in choosing the deeds that we do, it would seem to me that for all I have recently been pondering this term "True self." I haven't looked it up or done any real reading on it or anything, but I wonder what it means? Seems like there is such a push to discover such a thing. ---In [email protected], <yifuxero@...> wrote : There's a problem with the notion of a "you". The relative you and me doesn't end at the skin. There are countless karmic antecedents and interactions with contributing influences. To use an analogy, say there's a tiny whirlpool at the edge of a larger stream. The whirlpool merges with the Total stream in a transitionary way such that we can't establish exactly where the whirlpool begins and ends. The entire stream is actually the cause of the whirlpool (the latter being a part). Saying the Gunas is more accurate than saying a "you" since the relative you l is like the tiny whirlpool. At times, the tiny whirlpool may grow larger with smaller pools growing around It. Therefore, causation is difficult to assign to a particular body independent of the whole., although it's true that that "That" particular body did most of the acting, and is thus an agent. ......But not an completely independent agent. the Vegas shooter was a tiny whirlpool in the midst of a strem, sucking in thousands of people in a chain of causation. All of the causes (as Gunas), came together in that guy, Stephen. Yes, he's the agent, but along with countless other contributing factors. The totality of those causes manifest as Gunas and is a larger type of whirlpool. The energy was simply focused on his body while he fired those bullets. SHALOM
