> > I wrote: > > > > We have lots of people here who've used TM mantras at > > some length. I'd love to read people's experiences in terms > > of what each of us has observed firsthand in all these > > decades of using our mantras. Get this discussion out > > of the realm of theory and into our direct experiences. > > > --- sparaig wrote: > > Thereby pulling the flower up by the roots...
I don't think Peter Sutphen pulled a flower up by its roots to report that his mantra generates bliss. I wasn't asking people to analyze their mantras. I was asking what people actually experience when they use them. Transcending? Bliss? Encounters with actual beings? These are not off-the-program questions. In response to my question, I got one actual experience and two "Maharishi says"-type replies. Fortunately, they all fit together and complemented my experience, and I thank all for responding. ----------- It strikes me as a little bit crazy that we talk so much theory around here. This master says this. That master say that. That's fine, but what does *your* research reveal? Maybe I'm harping on this because I've been thinking lately about the approach to science taken by Waldorf schools. In middle school, rather than say, "Here's the theory, now look for evidence of it in this experiment," they conduct the experiment, then ask the students, "What did you observe?" In other words, instead of telling people what to expect -- teaching the View, as Vaj might say -- they encourage kids to pay attention and draw their own conclusions. Those conclusions lead naturally to a "right" answer. Whenever some question of experience arises on Fairfield Life and people start posting a meditation teacher's views on the subject, I get a little frustrated. We have probably dozens of active readers here with extensive experience in various schools of meditation and personal growth. Seems to me we could draw our own conclusions empirically. Given the choice between a teacher's teachings and the direct experiences of Lawson English and Bob Brigante, I'd rather hear the latter. If my interest in your experiences comes across as asking you to pull your flowers up by the roots, please forgive me. That is not my intention. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
