--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > That the simple statment, "the intellect is a quite useful* > > > tool in the attainment of higher states" was found so > > > incorrect by some readers as to be hilarious, at least > > > can't help but raise a smile. > > > > That's a topic I participated in, but it was Barry who viciously > > attacked you with his laughter. I only disagreed in a respectful > tone. > > > > > So much talk on this list, particularly by neo-advaitans > > > or pseudo-advaitans, is about the great value of > > > self-inquiry. What exactly is used in self-inquiry, ones > > > big toe? > > > > What's really funny for me right now is how everything is flipped > > upside down and inside out. I have zero formal training in > > self-inquiry, and asking myself "who am I" used to result in nothing > > but frustration and an immediate shift of attention to anything > else. > > Recently, I've been asking myself the same question, and it > literally > > shuts down my intellect, every time. I ask the question and I > > immediately zone out into awareness. So, what's being used? I don't > > know! It seems like it starts with intellect, but the answer is > > utterly beyond it. > > > > Similarly, for the past 10-12 years, I couldn't tolerate more than > 3-5 > > minutes of TM at a time. But, the other morning, I woke up at 3:30am > > and sat up to meditate. No mantra came to me, and I just sat there, > > silently witnessing the breath, which became very faint. And, 20 > > minutes went by in a flash. In all my years of doing TM, I *never* > had > > as profoundly deep a meditation as that. I was all like, "No no no! > > You don't meditate to awaken! You awaken so you can meditate!" > LOL!!! > > > > Alex > > > > Even the thought ABOUT the mantra is the mantra... >
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