--- In [email protected], "Nelson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Nelson" 
> > <nelsonriddle2001@> wrote:
> > > +++ Didn't Patanjli point out that all that was just more 
stuff 
> > that
> > > would have to be transended eventually?  N.
> > >
> > 
> > As opposed to what?
> >
> +++  getting involved and creating more mud to wade thru.
>
I am not sure I understand what you are saying. If you are saying 
that the TM sidhis techniques are beneficial vs creating more mud, 
Yes, I completely agree.

In my experience liberation, enlightenment, BC, realization or 
whatever you choose to call it occurs as a result of the following:

1. The components of the body (and their resultant personal 
consciousness) are purified by TM and TM sidhis, and the alternation 
of these practices with activity.

2. This process occurs until pure consciousness is maintained in any 
and every situation, waking, dreaming, sleeping, shouting, drinking, 
smoking, kissing, working, playing, whispering, observing, reading, 
writing, feeling, swimming, diving, walking, running, sitting 
standing, eating, etc.

3. Because of the infinite diversity of human beings and their 
individual karmas, there is no set activity to undertake before or 
after we meditate or do sidhis. Be careful what is characterized 
as 'mud' vs not. 

Don't be concerned about 'attachments', per se. All attachments drop 
off anyway after the goal is reached. The opposite 'problem' to 
waking state occurs; attachment becomes an impossibility.






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