TorquoiseB writes:snipped

*On the other hand*, from another point of view,
there may be some value in hearing the vibe "behind" 
the words that a person uses to describe an exper-
ience that they know is indescribable. The words
themselves mean nothing, but perhaps the vibe 
behind the words can provide a "pointer" to an
intuitive feeling about the actual experience,
a finger pointing to the moon.

Given the second point of view, I would say that
there is a greater likelihood of profiting from a
discussion of a spiritual experience with someone
who has actually had the experience than from a
discussion among people who haven't. In the former
case, the "vibe" might slip through underneath the
words; in the latter case, there is no "vibe" to
slip anywhere, only theory.

Tom T:
It is my experience that when one gets a group of 6 or more awake in
the same room discussing how IT gets lived day to day, there is a
situation in the room where those who are ready get that the knowledge
of IT is presented while at the same time the experience of IT is so
thick that it is palpable..With both knowledge and experience
available in the room simultaneously IT becomes almost impossible to
miss. Of course the vibe is real intense and when knowledge about IT
is combined with the experience many can get IT. Tom T






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