--- hugheshugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > on 2/20/06 1:34 AM, hugheshugo at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks I've just read the sadie files. very > interesting. > > > > > > I think you've missed the point though, > Maharishi claims to be a > > > celibate monk and was apparently sleeping with > his disciples I > can't > > > think of anything that undermines the TM > movement more. What else > > > has he lied about, the maharishi effect? good > fund raiser that. > > > Ayurveda? never worked for me but rakes in > millions. > > > > > > I'm serious, it's more than a question of > consenting adults, a lot > > > of people will have nervous breakdowns they are > into this stuff so > > > much, they believe MMY speaks with the voice of > god! And all the > > > time he was getting blow jobs of young girls too > scared or awed to > > > know any better! > > > > > > > > > How can the truth not be black and white? > > > > It never is. I share your questions and > sentiments, but I've spent > enough > > time around Maharishi to know that he has many > good qualities and is > > remarkable in many ways. Regardless of his > behavior, he appeared to > me to be > > in a very high state of consciousness: his darshan > was > transformative, his > > intellect brilliant, his energy extraordinary. > When I was a new > meditator > > and hadn't met him yet, a friend was razzing me > about Maharishi's > Rolls > > Royces. I responded that I didn't know about that, > but that if the > benefits > > I was getting from TM were any indication of the > man's worth, he > must be a > > remarkable man. I still assert that, although I > have very little > doubt that > > the sexual allegations are true, that he's an > unethical > businessman, etc. > > I'm not saying those things are acceptable; they > detract from his > greatness, > > and are probably symptomatic of the underlying > reasons why the TMO > has > > failed. Just that he's made a larger-than-life > contribution to the > world > > despite his foibles. > > > > Well that I agree with, I have got a lot out of TM > and I always > believed it to be a force for good in the world. But > the more time > I've spent with the movement the more cynical I've > got and thats a > shame as I used to be passionate about spreading the > word. Not any > more. > > I think the term foibles is a bit too much of a > forgiving term, If a > teacher at college etc seduces a student it is > always abuse, of power > trust etc. I can see no difference here, I thinks > it's worse > actually. The girls concerned may still love MMY but > this is typical > of people in such a dysfunctional relationship. > > I still think the truth is always clear though and I > will be > interested to see the expressions on my believer > friends faces when > they find out their guru, who they think speaks with > the voice of god > don't forget, is not as pure as they thought MMY speaks with the voice of God, you just don't like what the voice says! -God > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
