--- In [email protected], "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <fairfieldlife@> > wrote: > > > > on 2/20/06 1:34 AM, hugheshugo at richardhughes103@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks I've just read the sadie files. very interesting. > > > > > > I think you've missed the point though, Maharishi claims to be a > > > celibate monk and was apparently sleeping with his disciples I > can't > > > think of anything that undermines the TM movement more. What else > > > has he lied about, the maharishi effect? good fund raiser that. > > > Ayurveda? never worked for me but rakes in millions. > > > > > > I'm serious, it's more than a question of consenting adults, a lot > > > of people will have nervous breakdowns they are into this stuff so > > > much, they believe MMY speaks with the voice of god! And all the > > > time he was getting blow jobs of young girls too scared or awed to > > > know any better! > > > > > > > > > How can the truth not be black and white? > > > > It never is. I share your questions and sentiments, but I've spent > enough > > time around Maharishi to know that he has many good qualities and is > > remarkable in many ways. Regardless of his behavior, he appeared to > me to be > > in a very high state of consciousness: his darshan was > transformative, his > > intellect brilliant, his energy extraordinary. When I was a new > meditator > > and hadn't met him yet, a friend was razzing me about Maharishi's > Rolls > > Royces. I responded that I didn't know about that, but that if the > benefits > > I was getting from TM were any indication of the man's worth, he > must be a > > remarkable man. I still assert that, although I have very little > doubt that > > the sexual allegations are true, that he's an unethical > businessman, etc. > > I'm not saying those things are acceptable; they detract from his > greatness, > > and are probably symptomatic of the underlying reasons why the TMO > has > > failed. Just that he's made a larger-than-life contribution to the > world > > despite his foibles. > > > > Well that I agree with, I have got a lot out of TM and I always > believed it to be a force for good in the world. But the more time > I've spent with the movement the more cynical I've got and thats a > shame as I used to be passionate about spreading the word. Not any > more.
Yeah, but you've got to take alot of the blame yourself, my friend. This silliness has been going on for about 30 years now...and by silliness I mean anything that is obviously, on the face of it, NOT the basic teaching -- and promotion and promulgation of -- the TM Program. All the silliness -- from political parties to declarations about the CIA invading the TMO to selling 100s of MAPI products to Vedic Vibration to praising dictators like Castro and Marcos, etc. etc. -- has been going on for years and is so obviously NOT connected with TM that you had to be a dense cult-groupie in order to not see the forest for the trees. So why did it take you so long to smell the coffee, sucker? And now you are being self-righteously angry with MMY? HAHAHAHAHAH! You've waisted half your life devoted to a cult when it was obvious that it was YOU who were off the program for the past 25 years! Sucker! Didn't you hear the instructions during the 7-step program when you learned TM? Didn't you understand the instructions that you didn't have to believe in anything in order for it to work? Doesn't that include NOT having to listen to, adhere to, BELIEVE in the ramblings of a GURU? Wasn't it a hint when he weighed some Lebanese guy in gold and put a goddamn CROWN on his head, for crissake???? Are you nuts to fall for crap like that? And you kept on in the TMO after that? Goodness, that little plum of foolhardiness was at least 5 years ago, wasn't it? Please, sir, take responsibility for your own life. > > I think the term foibles is a bit too much of a forgiving term, If a > teacher at college etc seduces a student it is always abuse, of power > trust etc. I can see no difference here, I thinks it's worse > actually. The girls concerned may still love MMY but this is typical > of people in such a dysfunctional relationship. > > I still think the truth is always clear though and I will be > interested to see the expressions on my believer friends faces when > they find out their guru, who they think speaks with the voice of god > don't forget, is not as pure as they thought. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
