--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> > > wrote: > > > > > > The interesting thing about this discussion is that > > > according to MMY, he took this same path with Guru > > > Dev of "attuning one's thinking to that of the teacher." > > > > > > If it's true that when you do this, you take on all > > > the qualities of mind of the teacher, what does that > > > say about the qualities of MMY's mind that are so > > > often criticized here? > > > > Go back and read the discussion. > > No, I read the discussion already, thanks very much. > > > No one ever > > suggested that it was an all-or-nothing process, > > or that everyone is successful at modeling the > > mind of their teacher. > > Perhaps you should read what *I* wrote. I never > said anyone had ever suggested it was an all-or- > nothing process or that everyone is successful > at modeling the mind of their teacher. > > See that little squiggly thing at the end of what > you quoted from my post? That's a question mark. > > The operative phrase in the question is, "What > does that say about...?" > > But here's what you wrote (and snipped from your > response): > >> "So IMO it's a good idea, from time to time, to take >> a few steps back and really *examine* the mind that >> you're trying to attune yourself to. Do you really >> *want* all that you see there? Because you're going >> to get it *all* as a result of the mind-modeling, >> not just the parts you want." > > So, in fact, you not only suggested, you said > explicitly that it was an "all-or-nothing" process. > > No wonder you carefully snipped the quote. > > Your *corrections* to your original statement in > this reply are perfectly reasonable; they're > exactly what I was attempting to elicit: It's not > quite so cut-and-dried as you initially said. > > Why couldn't you just make those corrections, > without prefacing them with the claim that I > hadn't read what you wrote? > > I know that all I meant > > to suggest is that it's something that one works > > at over a long period of time -- years, or decades. > > And not everyone is successful at doing it. > > > > I would suggest that Maharishi wasn't particularly > > successful at doing it, since one of his first > > actions after Guru Dev's death was to not obey > > what he'd told him to do (that is, go into seclusion, > > and not teach). > > > > In addition, the effects of mind-modeling only "last" > > so long. After almost fifty years, I suspect that > > Maharishi has had an opportunity to pick up a few > > kinks of his own. :-)
Judy, by now I suspect that almost everyone here has figured out that the *only* reason you try to get involved in discussions with me is to use them as part of your ongoing crusade to put me down, or to "win" the discussion in your mind, and/or suggest that nothing I say is to be trusted. I hope that this quest brings you great pleasure. Doing this with Vaj and myself and sometimes Paul seems to be one of the only things in your life that *does* bring you pleasure, so in the interest of furthering joy in the universe I would not interfere with it. On the other hand, there is nothing that says I have to participate in it, so carry on all by yourself. :-) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
