--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], t3rinity <no_reply@> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], t3rinity <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > > Even a fundamental Christian may have had an Awakening 
> > > > > experience, and therefore believes that anything 
> > > > > connected with that religion is true.
> > > > 
> > > > You're deluding yourself...*most* Christians in
> > > > the world have had NO SUCH EXPERIENCE. They are 
> > > > merely trusting what they have been told to trust.
> > > 
> > > Most Christians, perhaps.  But Michael specified
> > > *fundamentalist* Christians, many if not most of
> > > whom have had some sort of "born-again" experience.
> > 
> > Thanks Judy, that's what I had meant indeed. It's just that such
> > experiences aren't counted as such by some people. They are 
> > so 'low' that they don't even count them as such.
> 
> That's not it at all. It's a "numbers game." In the
> world of Christianity, mainly reflected by mainstream
> Protestant or Catholic followers, it would be a *rarity*
> to find someone who had personally had some kind of 
> "born again" experience.

True, but entirely irrelevant.  Michael was talking
about FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIANS.  *Not* mainstream 
Protestants or Catholics, FUNDAMENTALISTS.






 Talk to actual priests and
> pastors sometime instead of imagining what they deal
> with; they would tell you that the name of the game
> is FAITH. They deal with "flocks" who have *had* no
> spiritual experiences. They read stories about them.
> 
> But forget about the numbers. Assume a group of only
> ten people who have had no personal experience that
> they would call "spiritual," never in their entire
> lives. Yet they believe in the Bible as described
> to them by their priest or pastor.
> 
> Where exactly is the component of "experience" in 
> this?
> 
> What I'm saying is that I think trinity thinks that
> people in the world at large think and act the way
> the people he's used to interacting with do. I'm
> suggesting he needs to get out more.  :-)
>






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