Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Sutras

[Vaj]

On Mar 3, 2006, at 6:48 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: 3) There are many paths and many mountians. Process is Product (LBS, and to a degree others such as akasha/anon) Or... View (Darshana/"Rishi" or Experiential POV) determines Path determines Fruit (or Realization) which can also be shorthanded as "Enlightenment depends on View". or conversely View Determines Fruit. Ancillary observations: Different Darshanas or Views lead to different styles of Fruit or Realization Each distinct darshana will have it's own internal logic, unique to it's View, Path and Fruit. Correct View leads to gaining confidence in the View but this should not be mistaken as Enlightenment. Incorrect View can be ascertained and tested. Gradual methods generally take the approach of View -> Path -> Fruit "Sudden", or non-Dual methods place importance of correctly getting a glimpse of the non-dual Fruit, and *then applying the Fruit as the Path*. This is essentially a Pathless path, but it is in another sense, still a Path. Sometimes people on Pathless paths like to point this out to people on gradual Paths or even pretend (or are simply unaware of the fact) that Pathless Paths are still Paths. The idea of "no doer" can become a trap if one does not get the View of a Pathless path which uses non-meditation as it's method. Even though it is non-meditation (with no doer) this still is a sadhana (although hardly conventional in the searcher, searching on a path sense). To deny non-meditation as a method, ignores the fact that integration can progress, even in Unity. Amen. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.