> --- In [email protected], new_morning_blank_slate > > >>May I take a stab at integrating your insights/realizations/ > >>\knowledge -- which btw, relate beyond point 3.3 -- into the > >>perenial DRAFT FFL Sutras, v1.1?
Turquoise Blue ? wrote: > >Or you could masturbate in public. Both activities > >strike me as having about the same value. :-) Perhaps you are right, and perhaps I am naive in thinking such a list would have value for this group. On the other hand, it seems to me that it could provide a boon of insight into others' posts -- and the underlying experiences upon which they are based, as well as clarifying our own. For example, it is common to see great polarization in some discussions -- where it would appear that each party each has a completely opposite set of views and experiences. In reality, each has much commonality -- there are only a few points of difference. And by appreciating the commonality, it may be possible to find common ground on the divergent views -- or a least a better appreciation of why we may see things differently than others. Second, it appears some points are endlessly posted even thnough it seems everyone generally agrees. The list of consensus points is a bit of a general stipulation -- "we all get the point -- we all agree". Same with some divergent views -- "we all get the point -- some of us have a different view -- which has been previously well articulated." Third, it seems that when a posters main ideas are "read back" to them, the points and the overal view -- the glue holding the points together -- are quite off base. People end up arguing to the wind, not to the views expressed. I think its useful for all of us to articulate in a concise form what we think another's view is before we comment on it. My inital draft of the sutras is my attempt to do that and I suspect that I have gotten some wrong and am eager for correction. If others add to the sutra list, they may go through the same process -- and correction of errant perceptions. Fourth, from the sutras, some may find inconsistencies in their view -- leading to refinement. Some may see some logical extensions to existing views. And some may be challenged into thinking about divergent views and come to some new insights and clarifications. Fifth, your premise appears to be that this is an intellectual thing and as such has little value. However, most of the points are experientially based. The consensus points are such because everyone has had that experience. The divergent points are interesting in that they too are mostly experientially based -- thus perhaps indicating that various parties may at a deeper level agree, but they are interpreting and expressing their experiences differently. Or perhaps it lends support to "Many paths, many mountins" -- the conjecture that different people are fundamentally experiencing different things. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
