--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], anon_astute_ff <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Michael Dean Goodman 
> > > <Tantra@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Fairfield Lifers,
> > > > 
> > > > In response to the recent discussions on this list about 
> > > > the TM course fee [Why does T/M cost so much to join? A 
> > > > little help?], I'll re-post my controversial essay from 
> > > > a few years ago.  I first posted it on this list...
> > > 
> > > Since reposts are in vogue, here's a repost of one 
> > > of mine, somewhat shorter than Michael's:
> > > 
> > > I entered "learn to meditate" into Google and checked 
> > > what it costs to learn, from the first page of sites 
> > > found that listed prices: 
> > > 
> > >  1. $0 -- the techniques are provided on the website. 
> > >  2. $1.65 to $10.85 -- it's a book, sold through Amazon. 
> > >  3. $59.90 -- a home study course (Yogananda tradition). 
> > >  4. $0 -- instruction provided online, MP3s of talks 
> > >     provided for free, week-long in-residence retreats 
> > >     that include room and board for $295. 
> > >  5. $0 -- instruction provided online. 
> > >  6. $69 to $169 per day -- in-residence instruction that
> > >     includes room and board from Shambhala Mountain Center. 
> > >  7. $11.95 -- book. 
> > >  8. $0 -- instruction provided online. 
> > >  9. $4.95 -- book. 
> > > 10. $10.95 -- book. 
> > > 11. $0 -- Vipassana tradition, free classes. 
> > > 12. $0 -- instruction provided online. 
> > > 13. $2500 -- the first TM-related site, 
> > >     http://www.tm.safire.com/ 
> > > 14. $0 -- instruction provided online (Australian). 
> > > 15. $240 -- six-hour course in Stamford, CT. 
> > > 16. $88 to $122 -- London Buddhist Center (4-week course). 
> > > 
> > > Does one stand out from the rest?
> > 
> > An insight that may be useful in this discussion is what economists
> > refer to as "consumer surplus". It is the difference between what a
> > consumer is willing to pay for a good or service, and the actual
> > market price. For example, I may be willing to pay up to $300 / 
> > month for broadband internet access -- it has at least $300 of 
> > value to me, but I am more than happy to pay just $40 /month to one 
> > of several providers who offer it for that price. The $260 
> > difference is consumer surplus -- one of the great windfalls of 
> > modern economies. We generally pay a lot less for things than the 
> > value they supply to us.
> > 
> > Thus, if the argument is that we should be willing to pay up to the
> > full value of TM has some merit if there are no "substitutes". But 
> > if there are equivalent services available, the market cost of 
> > substitues is much lower than value (willingness to pay). Rational 
> > consumers don't often pay full value -- they pay market price and 
> > enjoy the -- often large -- consumer surplus.
> > 
> > Some might argue that TM has no equivalents -- that it is a highly
> > "differentiated" product and thus a price equal to or near full 
> > value is rational. That of course requires that the case for product
> > uniqueness can be effectively made -- a growing challenge given the
> > evidence provided in prior posts.
> 
> However, you can get precisely the same product for
> much less from teachers no longer affiliated with the
> organization.
> 
> It's no longer the case that the only place you can
> get the product is from the company that developed it.
> You no longer have to pay a steep price just for the 
> proprietary name.

That was my point. Was it expressed that unclearly? Or simply too
diplomatically -- allowing for the view of some that there is no
substitute for TM.


> The whole "The TMO charges too much because MMY is
> greedy" argument is no longer relevant.  It's gone,
> obsolete.
>






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