>>  somebody wrote:
>>
> > Did you do TM before you tried
> > the other 
> > techniques? If yes, might this have helped your
> > results? 
> 
> gullible fool:
>
> Yes, I did TM for twenty years before I got involved
> with any other techniques. ...
> 
> I'm sure it helped my results, but there are students
> in their twenties who are reaching basic awakening
> through VortexHealing, with maybe doing nothing prior
> to VortexHealing than being an Amma devotee for a few
> years. For me, it's been 32 years of spiritual work.
> Maybe I should have incarnated in 1980 instead of in
> 1954. :)

The premise of TM is that it enriches all areas of life 
because it "enlivens" the substrate of life, pure 
consciousness. We don't notice consciousness is 
missing because it's flat and featureless. Maharishi 
said this is the one experience that's missing; add 
it, and you'll benefit. And that's pretty much what 
most of us have experienced.

Peter Sutphen has posited that most TMers are 
saturated with that flat awareness to the point 
that they're ripe to bursting if given a practice 
that "pulls it out," so to speak. The sidhis do 
that to an extent, but many seem to profit from 
something else.

If this premise is true, it would make sense that 
anything we do after doing TM would bring 
noticeable results. Those results might make 
TM look bad, but remember that TM brings 
flatness, not flash.

I've mentioned here before about how a TM 
teacher at the Iowa City Center back in the 
day, Susan Isaacs, once commented about 
how flat everything is. There was a reason 
for that.

As for non-TMers getting great results from 
Vortex Healing, or whatever: if the notion of 
collective consciousness is valid, and collective 
consciousness is on the rise as even non-TMers 
say it is, people who pursue spiritual and self-
development practices today will get better results 
than those of us who learned back in the day.

I was always impressed by and envious of people 
who'd learn TM from me in the '80s and early '90s, 
the last times I taught, because their experiences 
were so textbook clear. Those people really 
demonstrated to me the validity of collective 
consciousness theories.

In summary, I think it's great that all these practices 
other than TM are generating such great results for 
people. I'd like to get me some of those myself. But 
I don't consider those results to negate the value of 
TM. On the contrary, for the reasons above, those 
great results could be construed as validating 
Maharishi's premise that everything gets better with 
TM, and that his programs contribute to a rise in
collective consciousness.






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