--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> somebody wrote: > >> > > > Did you do TM before you tried > > > the other > > > techniques? If yes, might this have helped your > > > results? > > > > gullible fool: > > > > Yes, I did TM for twenty years before I got involved > > with any other techniques. ... > > > > I'm sure it helped my results, but there are students > > in their twenties who are reaching basic awakening > > through VortexHealing, with maybe doing nothing prior > > to VortexHealing than being an Amma devotee for a few > > years. For me, it's been 32 years of spiritual work. > > Maybe I should have incarnated in 1980 instead of in > > 1954. :) > > The premise of TM is that it enriches all areas of life > because it "enlivens" the substrate of life, pure > consciousness. We don't notice consciousness is > missing because it's flat and featureless. Maharishi > said this is the one experience that's missing; add > it, and you'll benefit. And that's pretty much what > most of us have experienced. > > Peter Sutphen has posited that most TMers are > saturated with that flat awareness to the point > that they're ripe to bursting if given a practice > that "pulls it out," so to speak. The sidhis do > that to an extent, but many seem to profit from > something else. > > If this premise is true, it would make sense that > anything we do after doing TM would bring > noticeable results. Those results might make > TM look bad, but remember that TM brings > flatness, not flash. > > I've mentioned here before about how a TM > teacher at the Iowa City Center back in the > day, Susan Isaacs, once commented about > how flat everything is. There was a reason > for that. > > As for non-TMers getting great results from > Vortex Healing, or whatever: if the notion of > collective consciousness is valid, and collective > consciousness is on the rise as even non-TMers > say it is, people who pursue spiritual and self- > development practices today will get better results > than those of us who learned back in the day. > > I was always impressed by and envious of people > who'd learn TM from me in the '80s and early '90s, > the last times I taught, because their experiences > were so textbook clear. Those people really > demonstrated to me the validity of collective > consciousness theories. > > In summary, I think it's great that all these practices > other than TM are generating such great results for > people. I'd like to get me some of those myself. But > I don't consider those results to negate the value of > TM. On the contrary, for the reasons above, those > great results could be construed as validating > Maharishi's premise that everything gets better with > TM, and that his programs contribute to a rise in > collective consciousness. >
I haven't practised other mental techniques but I do go to Iyengar Yoga classes. I get such incredible results that when in class I assume that all the other students are "flying high" as I am. But on questioning them I find that, yes, they are getting relaxation, etc. but, no, not to the degree I get. I am convinced that it is the TM that supplements and enhances my hatha yoga experience. I experience it as an excellerant (sic?) that makes the yoga practise 200% more effective. TM is VERY compatible with other religious and spiritual practises and, indeed, can be viewed as the fulfillment of them or, say, their "missing link". ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
