Personally I think that MDG is a moodmaker who feels compelled to tell
us all how great he is (repeatedly and ad nauseum) 

--- In [email protected], "Irmeli Mattsson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I liked this post a lot. It is an honest account of Goodman's personal
> path and of his own insights and discriminations. I find Goodman's
> relationship to MMY have similar qualities than the TM-teacher I meet
> every now and then at lunch. That teacher has done the
> re-certification course. All the apparent absurdities in the movement
> don't bother him. He is somehow happily beyond them. There is
> something very beautiful and innocent in his relationship to MMY. The
> absurdities of the movement seem to have had a softening and moulding
> effect on his earlier quite rigid beliefs and attachments. I respect
> his devotion very much and I consider him to be doing fine. 
> 
> To be a `true believer' in this way is a fine and beautiful thing. To
> be a TB in a way as to using one's only right belief as a
> justification to morally low actions, and abuse and control of others
> is an distorted form, but quite common. This form of the TB phenomenon
> has mostly been discussed here and this discussion is very important.
> 
>  My main criticism is of  Goodman's post is that he tries to make
> wrong this kind of discussion. Or at least he claims reasoning in
> those lines to be at the same level as the fundamentalist's reasoning,
> only  from the opposite direction. I disagree. Sometimes
> fundamentalism can become wrapped in rigid rationality or
> rationalisations and use of science as religion. In those cases his
> criticism is appropriate, otherwise not.
>   
> I also disagree with the idea that no one is objective until they are
> re-established in the Self. I claim that we cannot even then be fully
> objective, to be representing  the absolute truth. The absolute is
> beyond the manifest phenomenal world. When the I becomes established
> in the transcendental, it becomes very stable and dis-identified with
> ideas of oneself, gross or subtle emotions etc. This I has no form,
> not even truth as we understand it.
> 
> This kind of I does not so easily identify with subjective states and
> therefore it is capable of looking at also internal phenomenon from a
> stable and calm position. It is very difficult to hurt this kind of I.
> Still it also always looks at things from a perspective, maybe from
> several perspectives, but never from all the possible and valid
> perspectives.
> 
> I agree fully of the importance of surrendering the gross level
> calculating intellect as an ultimate guiding light. We cannot evolve
> to higher ways of being, or stages of development by relying on our
> intellect. Our intellect can create only variations of structures
> familiar to us. If we want to evolve we have to surrender and let
> ourselves to be guided. But simultaneously our discriminative capacity
> and sound judgement are great assets in avoiding pitfalls while
> surrendering. Otherwise surrendering may insidiously change to
> regression. And we start using intellect to find justifications to our
> morally low actions. However the reality is usually more complicated
> than this division because often surrender and regression are both
> present and we are not capable of discriminating them from each other.
> 
> I also personally feel to be strongly guided. Not by any single being
> in physical form, present or past, rather by all of them. I have also
> surrendered to and am also guided by the transcendental  that is
> beyond my understanding and intellect.
> 
> Irmeli
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Michael Dean Goodman
> <Tantra@> wrote:
> >
> > THE STRUGGLE OF INDIVIDUALITY TO PERPETUATE ITS ILLUSION
> > 
> > I feel compassionately sad whenever I meet those who still cling
> > to the idea that their individuality (individual intellect) can
> > guide them to the goal of realization, of remembering, of waking
> > up again to Reality.  They're sure that they don't need a guide
> > on the path, don't need to surrender control, don't need to ask
> > for help, and don't need to embrace their intellect's incompetence
> > and impotence to handle the job.
> > 
> > They are sure that their relative, finite intellect, bound in the
> > world of space and time, can grok and master infinity, the field
> > without boundaries, far beyond the ken of the relative intellect.
> > That is delusion, that is arrogance of the deepest kind, that is
> > the very essence of ignorance.  Their individual ego/intellect has
> > convinced them to trust it (not only to trust it, but to actually
> > believe that they ARE it), and to never entertain the idea that the
> > ego/intellect's assertion of its importance and ability to guide
> > them "back home" IS ITSELF THE VERY CRUX OF THE PROBLEM, the very
> > core of the ignorance.
> > 
> > HIRING THE THIEF TO CATCH THE THIEF
> > 
> > It is like hiring the master cat burglar (albeit in his clever dis-
> > guise as the 'great detective') to solve the string of (his) burglar-
> > ies.  The great detective (master burglar) will will NEVER EVER turn
> > himself in, never participate in his own exposure, but instead will
> > always have some encouraging progress report, and some inspiring vi-
> > sion of possibilities, to "string us along" as long as possible, as
> > he secretly continues his life of crime.
> > 
> > It is a very similar thing, to entrust our spiritual awakening to the
> > ego/intellect consortium.  They ARE the problem, and putting them in
> > charge of solving the problem is lunacy.  [Technically, the problem
> > is our identification with them, our belief that we ARE them, that
> > they are "in charge", that they are "all that there is".]  The real
> > solution is not to "hire" them to guide us to realization, but to let
> > go of them and remember our true status as the infinite field that is
> > beyond them.  Instead of following them, we have to step out of their
> > realm entirely, beyond where they can go, into the unbounded field of
> > the Self.  Then they revert back to their real status as our servants,
> > as managers of the relative field of life - and let go of the delusion
> > that they are "hot stuff", "in charge", "the boss".
> > 
> > DISCRIMINATION - THE PATH TO CC
> > 
> > The path from ignorance to awakening IS a path of discrimination,
> > but not discrimination by the relative intellect.  It is the waking
> > up of the cosmic intellect from its immersion in illusion, from its
> > identification with boundaries, with individuality, from its belief
> > that it ever was (solely) the relative intellect.  It is the path
> > of the infinite Self "waking up", curving back on its Self, and stop-
> > ping its old habit of getting stuck in the finite boundaries.  It is
> > the path of separating what is Real from what is not.  And the rela-
> > tive ego/intellect is in the field of "what is not real", and there-
> > fore hardly fit to lead us to the Real.  It is the path of the cosmic
> > intellect regaining its settled, even state of being established in
> > its own, infinite Self (sama-dhi = evenness of intellect).
> > 
> > BASED ON MY OWN EXPERIENCE -
> > INDIVIDUAL INTELLECT TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT
> > 
> > I can say this so boldly, about the struggle of the individual ego/
> > intellect to perpetuate its illusion and never admit it needs help,
> > because I was very, very much there once; I know how that feels.  I
> > have a very strong, powerful relative intellect.  I have a deep ten-
> > dency in my relative personality to believe in self-sufficiency, to
> > hold that I can/must take care of myself, be vigilant, figure it out,
> > protect myself, etc.
> > 
> > So I tried figuring it out on my own (for many lifetimes, and for many
> > years in this lifetime), sorting through the myriad philosophies, spi-
> > ritual traditions, techniques, teachers...  I tried "interviewing"
> > various teachers, testing them, evaluating them.  Until I met one that
> > chose me.  I thought I chose him; I thought I poked and prodded with
> > my intellect and discovered someone where I couldn't find any "holes",
> > any inconsistencies, any weaknesses.  But looking back, in hindsight,
> > that belief was still part of my delusion of independence and power
> > of my ego/intellect.  In reality, it was just grace that he was offer-
> > ed to me, it was just that I was ripe and being harvested by something
> > so much beyond me, beyond the delusion of who I thought I was, that I
> > couldn't conceive of It, much less evaluate and judge It.
> > 
> > So It presented me brilliantly with just the right qualities in a
> > teacher that allowed my ego/intellect to feel safe, to relax, to let
> > the armor down just enough that the inexorable process could begin
> > [or move into its final phase after all that preparation time].
> > 
> > INDIVIDUAL INTELLECT RELAXES, AND FINALLY SURRENDERS
> > 
> > And even then it didn't happen all at once, my belief in the power
> > of my relative ego/intellect didn't crumble, I didn't jump off the
> > edge of some cliff.  I just started sliding down a very inviting
> > but apparently gentle slope.  I kept getting seduced by It, so that
> > the hold of my belief in the power of my relative ego/intellect faded
> > over the course of a couple of years in stages.  Layer by layer, I
> > struggled, but I let go.  I shifted from identifying with my indivi-
> > dual ego/intellect to identifying with the Self, with cosmic ego/in-
> > tellect.  I trusted something bigger to guide me.  And that "something
> > bigger" was shown to me through the vehicle called "my teacher", "my
> > Master", Maharishi.
> > 
> > 3 LABELS THROWN ABOUT ON THIS LIST
> > 
> > LABEL #1 - TRUE BELIEVERS
> > 
> > People on this list sometimes call me a "true believer".  I was once.
> > In the beginning, in the 70s, I spoke and taught based on faith, on
> > belief.  But that was a long time ago.  Now, most of my speech and
> > behavior spontaneously arises from direct personal experience/under-
> > standing, and from the source in cosmic mind - from awareness cur-
> > ving back on its Self.  This makes life SO much simpler, so much
> > easier.  ;)
> > 
> > When we live in a universe apparently ruled by the relative ego/in-
> > tellect, then everything feels like it has to be "figured out",
> > "checked out", evaluated, vigilantly watched and decided.  Discrimi-
> > nation rules - our very existence feels like it depends on it.  One-
> > upsmanship is the way - to make ourself "more OK" by making others
> > "less OK", to "prove" ourselves "right" by making others "wrong", to
> > bolster our sense of existence and safety and solidity by taking that
> > away from others.  Certainly, handing over that personal discriminat-
> > ing power to someone feels like danger, like foolishness.  We must
> > avoid being "taken advantage of", being fooled, letting our guard
> > down.  So its a great put-down to call each other "true believer" or
> > "true non-believer", to imply that someone is blindly and indiscri-
> > minately following a path.  And it puffs us up to position ourself
> > as the "objective", "clear-minded", "logical" one.
> > 
> > But it's just a big illusion - no one is objective until they are re- 
> > established in the Self.  That is the only uninvolved, neutral, free-
> > from-desire, free-from-fear vantage point.  Everyone else is just un-
> > knowingly supporting their deep beliefs (which are often based on un-
> > conscious traumas and the resulting constrictions), by cherry-picking
> > among the available "evidence".  What's called "objective",
"truthful", 
> > "right" by many turns out to be merely that which supports their exis-
> > tence, comfort, safety...that which supports their relative, and often
> > skewed, world-view.
> > 
> > To the relative intellect, concepts like intuition, feelings,
devotion, 
> > surrender, submission, homage, bhakti, etc. feel so foreign - more
than 
> > foreign, they feel dangerous.  They threaten the intellect's carefully
> > held-together illusion of stability and safety.
> > 
> > In my experience "true-belief" is a stage - to carry you on the path
> > until direct experience and understanding catch up and take over. When
> > the Self comes back to its Self, and the universe "ruled" by the rela-
> > tive ego/intellect is seen objectively, then there is no more need to
> > be a "believer" of any stripe, to take someone else's word for it.
> > Then you can take your own word for it, the word of the Self; you
speak
> > from The Truth, rather than from your individually-colored truth or
> > beliefs.
> > 
> > And only at that point, established in the Self, do those words like
> > "devotion", "surrender", "bhakti" actually start to have any real
> > meaning.  Only at that point is there something real to actually sur-
> > render.  Our surrender of the relative intellect to step into the
> > field of the Self was the surrender of an illusion, of a "shadow".
> > But to surrender who we really are to God - to transform Self-reali-
> > zation into God-realization - that is surrender worthy of the name.
> > Only at that point does the real opening of the heart take over,
> > does the path of discrimination (separating) turn into the path of
> > love (merging).
> > 
> > Most people who've not realized the Self know, somewhere deep inside,
> > that no matter how strongly they present their views, and how much
> > one-upsmanship they foist on others to try and make their own position
> > look solid and right by making others wrong, their whole thing is
built
> > on quicksand - there is nothing solid, stable, true anywhere in their
> > world.  They know that everything is relative, slippery/slidey - and
> > that the only way to find any slight stability is to use the intellect
> > to build a structure of beliefs that looks solid.
> > 
> > So those who haven't had that real, objective experience of living
> > from the Self, and who haven't directly experienced that there is
> > non-relative, non-slippery, non-changing absolute Truth - often as-
> > sume that anyone who speaks clearly and firmly must have been "brain-
> > washed", taken in, hypnotized...OR they must be an ego-maniac.  The
> > idea that someone could be speaking from direct, personal, innocent
> > experience of unchanging Truth is difficult for them to grok.  And
> > the concept that someone would be willing to take that absolute Truth
> > and "give it up" for something greater, for some urge of the heart,
> > is even more baffling.
> > 
> > LABEL #2 - INSIDER
> > 
> > People on this list sometimes call me an insider in the TM Movement.
> > I was once.  I founded and ran one of the biggest TM Centers in the
> > country (Chicago), helped create the corporate TM Program (AFSCI),
> > taught credit TM/SCI classes at colleges, was trained as a Special
> > Techniques teacher, led international ATRs and TTCs and AEGTCs,
> > edited Maharishi knowledge tapes, ran the International Film and Tape
> > Library in Switzerland, spent years on deep meditation courses under
> > Maharishi's personal guidance, searched out and bid on multi-million
> > dollar real estate projects for Maharishi (Capitals Project), headed
> > up one of the three divisions at the National Headquarters at Living-
> > ston Manor while doing Minister Training, helped organize the big
> > Amherst course that ultimately brought all the people to Fairfield,
> > lived in Fairfield for almost 20 years (I still own a house there),
> > served on the board of the MIU "chamber of commerce" that helped bus-
> > inesses move to Fairfield, renovated MIU's dorms when their condition
> > threatened MIU's accreditation (and didn't lose my shirt in the pro-
> > cess!), created a multi-million dollar business that was one of the
> > top 10 sidha employers in Fairfield in its day, taught on MIU's Con-
> > tinuing Ed faculty, helped inspire and research the huge Taste of
> > Utopia course that brought over 7000 to Fairfield, did my years of
> > tapas in the Golden Domes...
> > 
> > And for 20 years now I've done NONE of that - no direct ties or re-
> > sponsibilities to the TM Movement.  I left the "student phase of life"
> > and became a householder, as Maharishi urged.  I'd "run that gauntlet"
> > of life within the Movement - sometimes gracefully, sometimes pain-
> > fully.  My time inside the TM Movement did its job, bore its fruit,
> > and wasn't needed anymore.
> > 
> > So I've long been my own man - doing many things that get some peo-
> > ple into very hot water with the Movement - I run satsangs and I talk
> > about experiences, I publicly discuss knowledge on the internet, I
> > teach tantra, I do counseling, I run spiritual workshops, I've stud-
> > ied and taught many healing techniques, I've brought teachers to Fair-
> > field that have affected hundreds of meditators lives, I interact with
> > many spiritual teachers, I read "forbidden" books, I expound contro-
> > versial views, I teach about sexuality and am at home with my own and
> > with its place on the spiritual path, I explore and lecture about and
> > do counseling with people living alternative relationship styles -
> > controversial styles such as polyamory, bdsm/fetish, swinging, tantra,
> > lgbt, etc.)...
> > 
> > So, based on my current interests/activities, you could say I am very
> > much an outsider in relation to official TM Movement positions, but
> > still very much an insider to my Master.  He is inside me; I am inside
> > him.  Where could I go that he isn't?  And he introduced me to my God,
> > and brought Him/Her to sit down inside me and begin expanding.  I bow
> > down to Maharishi for all that.
> > 
> > If you have a teacher, who is a conduit for the Self, the infinite, to
> > shine through - and if you still think that has much of anything to do
> > with that teacher's relative body, relative personality, relative be-
> > havior - then you are still at a very immature level of relationship
> > to your teacher, and a very immature level of utilizing that conduit
> > to the infinite.  Maharishi is my "worm-hole" to the Self, to God, to
> > That.
> > 
> > TRUE DEVOTION - REAL BHAKTI - WHO HAS IT?
> > 
> > 1. THE PERSONAL-CONTACT RULE FOR TRUE BHAKTI
> > 
> > Someone commented that I couldn't claim devotion to Maharishi if I
> > haven't seen him (his relative body) in person for a long time.  (So
> > I'm curious, where does the boundary line come that distinguishes real
> > devotion?  Does seeing Maharishi far off across a big lecture hall
> > count?  Does it count if he's in the next room, speaking over a sound
> > system?  What about seeing him live on TV - but from the next room,
> > the next town, the next continent?  What about streaming live internet
> > video?  Or videotapes/CDs - how recent do they have to be?  Do audio-
> > tapes count - you're not literally "seeing" him?  What about telephone
> > calls, letters, etc.?  How close in time/space do I have to get to him
> > to qualify as a "true devotee"?  How often do I have to get that
close?
> > Does it count if he's thinking of me, or if I'm thinking of him?  How
> > often?)   Obviously, from my laughing sarcasm, in my experience this
> > person's comment reflects a very limited, relative, basic-level view
> > of devotion.
> > 
> > It's not Maharishi's relative body that I relate to much anymore; it
> > is his expanded reality, his cosmic presence, his omnipresence, the
> > awareness that he is.  He lives in me, as my Self.  I live in him.
> > It's his thinking, in his role as a reflector/conduit of That, that
> > I attune myself to and become ever more deeply.  Our relationship is
> > on that level.
> > 
> > 2. THE WELCOME-IN-THE-MOVEMENT RULE FOR TRUE BHAKTI
> > 
> > Someone commented that, with all my activities, I'd never be welcome
> > anymore in the Movement, or to represent it, and wondered how I could
> > be devoted to Maharishi and yet not able to participate in his Move-
> > ment.
> > 
> > First, that actually isn't what I find.  Just two years ago, living
> > in Fairfield, I was invited to do knowledge presentations for a cam-
> > pus advanced lecture program for students.  And because I have no
> > major power issues - with the Movement, or with masculine authority
> > in general - I get a program badge when I apply, without hassle. Also,
> > I'm on the Movement's various e-mail lists (national and local), and
> > I go to TM Movement events in my local area occasionally; I am
respect-
> > fully welcomed as an experienced teacher/leader and even asked to take
> > on responsibilities now and then (which I rarely have the time or in-
> > clination for).
> > 
> > Second, even if I couldn't do these things, they are irrelevant to my
> > devotion to my Master.  There was a time, when I was more identified
> > with the field of boundaries, that my involvement or not in activities
> > on that level was important, made me feel connected...  When I didn't
> > have Maharishi established inside me, as the Self, than contact with
> > his "trappings", his Movement, offered some solace, some comfort.
> > 
> > But my relationship to Maharishi now transcends these specific rela-
> > tive activities.  The TM activities that I can or can't participate
> > in neither add to nor diminish my love for Maharishi, or my connec-
> > tion to the Self (for which he acts as my conduit, or touchstone).
> > 
> > To me, the TM Movement, with all its activities, is a kind of train-
> > ing facility, a place to test yourself, temper yourself, strengthen
> > yourself; it's also a place to take refuge when you need to escape
> > the world, and for some a place to hide; it's definitely a place to
> > burn up karma.  The TM Movement is a kind of a spiritual "game" - a
> > gauntlet to run - and you'd better be awake and know what you're get-
> > ting into if you choose to enter that arena.  It's Maharishi's Move-
> > ment - and a big mirror of the world's karma - but it's certainly not
> > the only path to Maharishi.
> > 
> > 3. THE FOLLOW-EVERY-INSTRUCTION-TO-THE-LETTER RULE FOR TRUE BHAKTI
> > 
> > Someone commented that I couldn't claim devotion to Maharishi if I'm
> > not following every "instruction" that he gives.  Again, this is a
> > very narrow, immature view of the relationship to a Master.  If only
> > it were that simple.  ;)
> > 
> > Q: Does Maharishi ever give apparently contradictory instructions?
> > A: Often.
> > 
> > Q: How do you resolve those?
> > A: By tuning into the Self, to Maharishi's thinking as That; so these
> >     contradictions become an invitation to further attune yourself to
> >     the Self - much more important on that level than on the level of
> >     performance, of action.
> > 
> > Q: Does Maharishi ever give individuals instructions which contradict
> >     his general public instructions?
> > A: Often.
> >     So, based on outer appearances/behaviors, you can't really tell
> >     if someone is following Maharishi's instructions or not.  That's
> >     a very personal, private thing that you'd likely not have access
> >     to.
> > 
> > Q: Does Maharishi ever give individuals direct instructions to ignore
> >     some of his public instructions, no matter how that "looks" to
> >     others?
> > A: I've experienced this personally.
> > 
> > Q: Does Maharishi ever give one group of people one instruction, and
> >     another group an apparently contradictory one?
> > A: Often - causing them to either have a huge conflict, or to act as
> >     "checks and balances" on each other.
> > 
> > Q: Does Maharishi ever give an instruction, and later completely re-
> >     verse it?
> > A: Of course - we've discussed that here many times.
> > 
> > Q: Does Maharishi ever give so many instructions (for various daily
> >     practices, routine, study, etc.), and then other instructions
> >     (for activities to accomplish, family duties, etc.), that there
> >     would not be enough hours in the day to do them all?
> > A: Of course.
> > 
> > Q: Does Maharishi ever give instructions that have different mean-
> >     ings at different levels of consciousness, at different places
> >     on the path - or that may appear to mean one thing, but on deep-
> >     er investigation mean something different?
> > A: All the time.
> > 
> > Q: Does Maharishi ever give instructions to test you - test your
> >     attachment to something, or your devotion, or whatever?
> > A: Sure - not for his sake, but to point out to you where you're
> >     stuck, or attached.  And once you've had that insight, he some-
> >     times retracts the instruction, and doesn't make you go through
> >     with the difficult thing.
> > 
> > This whole question of "following the Master's instructions" is much
> > richer, much deeper than your question implies - than the simple idea
> > of mindlessly following orders.  It is a field ripe with possibilities
> > for attuning your mind to cosmic mind, for alert, wide-awake devotion.
> > It's as complicated, or simple, as life itself.
> > 
> > So, since you don't know what instructions I've been given - public-
> > ly or privately - what my "program" is, what my responsibilities or
> > assignments in life are, etc., you really have absolutely no way to
> > tell how well I'm following Maharishi's instructions, do you?  Nor
> > would you have any need to; that would be a very private thing between
> > Master and devotee.
> > 
> > The only thing of any value for you to do in this arena, is to focus
> > your attention on YOUR instructions, YOUR understanding of them, and
> > YOUR success in following them.
> > 
> > Here's a story that illustrates the ease with which we can misinter-
> > pret another's path:
> > 
> > YOUNG GURU DEV AND THE CAVE
> > 
> > Maharishi tells the story of a young Guru Dev, who may have been
> > around 11 or 12 years old at the time, and was a newcomer to the
> > ashram of his Master:
> > 
> > The Master had given young Guru Dev instruction in meditation.  And
> > he quietly told him to leave the hustle and bustle of the ashram and
> > go practice in silence, in the caves in the hills nearby.  So for
> > some time, young Guru Dev was not seen much around the ashram.
> > 
> > The Master's ashram had many people in it, including some senior
> > disciples who had been with the Master for decades, and were very
> > learned in the Vedas.  They had some subtle ego about their posi-
> > tion, and some resentment of the obvious deep relationship young
> > Guru Dev, a mere boy, had developed so quickly with their Master.
> > So, when he disappeared from the ashram, they were secretly pleased,
> > assuming that he'd done something to displease the Master, or was
> > found to be too young and immature to handle the ashram life.
> > 
> > One day, after many months had passed, a holiday approached and
> > the Master expressed to his senior staff a desire to take a re-
> > treat of silence in a cave up in the hills.  He sent his top dis-
> > ciple to the hills to seek out and prepare a proper cave for him
> > to reside in.  He reminded the disciple that young Guru Dev was
> > living in one of those caves, and because of his familiarity with
> > the area, he should be consulted about the cave selection.
> > 
> > So the chief disciple arrived at the caves in the hills, and sought
> > out young Guru Dev, finding him meditating in his cave.
> > 
> > The chief disciple said: "I am on a very important mission for the
> > Master.  He has sent me here to find him an empty cave in which to
> > reside.  Please help me to find one suitable for him - unoccupied,
> > clean, large, dry, etc. - since you are familiar with this area."
> > 
> > After a brief hesitation, young Guru Dev said: "Please tell the
> > Master: 'There is no empty cave here'".
> > 
> > The chief disciple, thinking that the young boy was not taking the
> > mission seriously, said: "Of course there are empty caves here; I
> > passed some on my way to find you.  Please help me to find a suit-
> > able one!  The Master has commanded it."
> > 
> > Quietly, but firmly, young Guru Dev said: "Are you not here on a
> > mission for the Master?  Are you not his messenger?"
> > 
> > The chief disciple answered: "Yes, but..."
> > 
> > "No 'buts'" said young Guru Dev.  "You may be the chief disciple,
> > but today your role is that of a messenger.  You were instructed
> > to bring me a question, and now your job is to take my answer back
> > to the Master.  Respectfully, I ask that you please do just that,
> > do your duty.  The question from the Master, to be asked of me, was
> > 'Is there a suitable empty cave there?'  The answer I'd like you to
> > deliver, word-for-word, is: 'There is no empty cave here'."
> > 
> > The chief disciple, astounded at the audacity of this young boy to
> > speak to him this way, left.  He surveyed some caves on his own and
> > then went back to the ashram to report on his mission, and especial-
> > ly this arrogant boy's behavior, to the Master.
> > 
> > But first, he discussed this rudeness with the other senior disci-
> > ples.  They agreed that it would be most instructive (and embarras-
> > sing), to young Guru Dev, and to other young disciples, to have this
> > issue raised in the ashram-wide satsang that happened with the Master
> > each afternoon.  They knew that young Guru Dev came down from his cave
> > each Friday for supplies, and attended the satsang, and they waited
> > patiently overnight, since the next day was Friday.
> > 
> > Overnight, the ashram was abuzz with rumors of the young boy who had
> > disrespected the chief disciple, and the Master.  Everyone made a
> > point to attend the afternoon satsang to see what the Master would
> > do to this insolent boy.
> > 
> > At the appropriate time in the satsang, the elder disciples moved
> > to broach the subject.  But rather than appear blatantly accusatory,
> > they instead chose to bring up the subject in the form of a hypo-
> > thetical knowledge question.  They asked: "Master, is it not a great
> > sin for a disciple to disrespect or disobey the Master?"  "And is
> > that sin not extended to the senior disciples of the Master, acting
> > on his business?"  "Master, is not the punishment for such a serious
> > offense, banishment from the ashram?"
> > 
> > To all of these, the Master responded "yes".
> > 
> > Having set the stage in this way, the senior disciple then related
> > the behavior of young Guru Dev the previous day, and the members
> > of the ashram were shocked.
> > 
> > The Master strongly said: "Young man, step forward and explain your
> > behavior to the whole ashram."
> > 
> > Young Guru Dev stepped into the center of the gathering, directly
> > in front of the Master, clasped his hands in devotion, and pros-
> > trated to the Master.  When the Master directed him to rise, he
> > calmly spoke these words:
> > 
> > "Master, when your chief disciple found me, and asked me that ques-
> > tion from you, I knew that it had a deeper meaning than the appar-
> > ent surface one.  Surely, with all these great, long-time disciples,
> > with all their wisdom and experience, and with all those here who've
> > spent much time in those caves, and some who live there now, and
> > with your own great spiritual vision, I knew that you did not actual-
> > ly need my advice on picking a physical cave.  So the meaning of your
> > question was immediately obvious.  You were asking me something much
> > deeper, about the condition of my spiritual practice that you had
> > assigned me and sent me to the hills to do.
> > 
> > "And when I looked inside, and surveyed the situation, I realized that
> > somehow you had been very successful in your work with me, because
> > when I looked into the only cave about which I had any valuable infor-
> > mation, my heart cave, I found that it was completely full - full with
> > you.  No matter where I looked, there was not a bit of vacant space
> > there; there was no place that you were not already.  So I
respectfully
> > told the chief disciple: please report to the Master, and tell him
> > 'There is no vacant cave here'.  It was the simple, obvious, truthful
> > answer to your real question."
> > 
> > With that, the whole ashram was astounded, for they saw that where
> > they had perceived an insolent young boy, there was a devotee who
> > had innocently accomplished what they dreamed of, who had become
> > the true reflection of the Master.  Everyone, from the chief disci
> > ple to the barest beginner in the ashram, felt the wave of love that
> > connected the Master and young Guru Dev, and were reminded how im-
> > portant it is to put their attention on the depth of things, rather
> > than let their attention get caught in the boundaries.
> > 
> > LABEL #3 - IGNORING MAHARISHI'S FAULTS
> > 
> > People on this list sometimes accuse me of ignoring all the talk
> > about Maharishi's "relative behaviors, flaws, faults, inconsistencies,
> > mistakes, harmful actions"...  It's amazing how people who don't know
> > me can project so much onto me.  I read this list, and many others
> > about TM and Maharishi, pretty religiously, and with clarity and
alert-
> > ness.  I could repeat your stories and complaints and arguments better
> > than some of you can.  I stay alert to discriminate what is fact, what
> > is opinion, what is rumor.  I pay attention to the motives and
feelings
> > of those who raise these issues.  I watch for the degree of obsession/
> > attachment of the reporters.  I use all this as opportunities to exa-
> > mine my own feelings, to open my heart even more, and to attune to
> > cosmic intelligence.
> > 
> > But even more relevant, I lived around and reported to Maharishi for
> > years, more than most (not all) of you, saw many things, and could add
> > stories to yours - not rumors or 3rd-hand accounts, but stories that
> > powerfully impacted on me and my feelings and caused tremendous
upheav-
> > al and soul-searching.  I know what it's like to face that fork in the
> > road in relationship to Maharishi/the Movement: (1) be deeply hurt,
> > yield to anger, blame something "out there", close up, become a
victim;
> > vs. (2) feel the pain, dive into it, embrace the karma, explore the
> > lesson, thank Master/Nature for that purifying fire, expand.
> > 
> > The thing is, I've come to realize that none of these discussions
> > about Maharishi's individual personality and behaviors, taken on the
> > relative level, are important to me.  Maharishi was presented to me
> > to be my conduit to the Self, to God, to That.  "Tat padam dharshitam
> > yena - by which the sign of That has been revealed."  He serves that
> > role beautifully.  I am blessed to have that conduit, and selfishly
> > make use of it.
> > 
> > I can direct my attention toward that conduit in such a way that I
> > invite it to open and pour its blessings on me more and more and
> > create more connection/unity (that kind of attention is called
> > devotion/bhakti); or I can direct my attention toward that conduit
> > in such a way that I invite it to close and shut down and create
> > more separateness/fear (that kind of attention is called doubt/
> > criticism).  We each have that choice of how to approach a conduit
> > to infinity.
> > 
> > CONCLUSION ABOUT LABELING
> > 
> > So when people try to paint me with their broad brush of "true be-
> > liever" and "insider" and "intellectually weak devotee and ignorer
> > of the facts" - it just makes me laugh and laugh.  The things we
> > try to project onto others is often a mirror of what we don't want
> > to admit to in ourself, or fear in ourself, or censor in ourself.
> > Lovingly I say to you, the next time you call someone a "true
> > believer", see if you aren't just as much a "true non-believer" -
> > just as stuck, blinded by your own emotional traumas, etc.  The
> > next time you call someone an "insider", see if you aren't resent-
> > ing being an "outsider" - unloved, unbelonging, abandoned.  The
> > next time you call someone an "unthinking, deluded bhakti", see
> > if you aren't an over-thinking believer in individuality, afraid to
> > let down your guard, to open up your heart.  These labels only re-
> > veal your own doubts and cynicisms.
> > 
> > In my next post I'll address self-doubt and cynicism, and the role
> > of profound trust and surrender, not as the negation of intellectual
> > inquiry, but as the true foundations for alert and meaningful ques-
> > tioning.
> > 
> > Namaste,
> > 
> > Michael
> > 
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