Bob Ferguson told this story at the Wellesley TM
Center back in the mid-70s, except the disciple was
not Guru Dev and the disciple did not come to a
satsang to convey what he meant. Considering Bob's
memory of this story was likely pretty fresh thirty
years ago, I'll go with Bob's version. 

--- anonyff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Personally I think that MDG is a moodmaker who feels
> compelled to tell
> us all how great he is (repeatedly and ad nauseum) 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Irmeli
> Mattsson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I liked this post a lot. It is an honest account
> of Goodman's personal
> > path and of his own insights and discriminations.
> I find Goodman's
> > relationship to MMY have similar qualities than
> the TM-teacher I meet
> > every now and then at lunch. That teacher has done
> the
> > re-certification course. All the apparent
> absurdities in the movement
> > don't bother him. He is somehow happily beyond
> them. There is
> > something very beautiful and innocent in his
> relationship to MMY. The
> > absurdities of the movement seem to have had a
> softening and moulding
> > effect on his earlier quite rigid beliefs and
> attachments. I respect
> > his devotion very much and I consider him to be
> doing fine. 
> > 
> > To be a `true believer' in this way is a fine and
> beautiful thing. To
> > be a TB in a way as to using one's only right
> belief as a
> > justification to morally low actions, and abuse
> and control of others
> > is an distorted form, but quite common. This form
> of the TB phenomenon
> > has mostly been discussed here and this discussion
> is very important.
> > 
> >  My main criticism is of  Goodman's post is that
> he tries to make
> > wrong this kind of discussion. Or at least he
> claims reasoning in
> > those lines to be at the same level as the
> fundamentalist's reasoning,
> > only  from the opposite direction. I disagree.
> Sometimes
> > fundamentalism can become wrapped in rigid
> rationality or
> > rationalisations and use of science as religion.
> In those cases his
> > criticism is appropriate, otherwise not.
> >   
> > I also disagree with the idea that no one is
> objective until they are
> > re-established in the Self. I claim that we cannot
> even then be fully
> > objective, to be representing  the absolute truth.
> The absolute is
> > beyond the manifest phenomenal world. When the I
> becomes established
> > in the transcendental, it becomes very stable and
> dis-identified with
> > ideas of oneself, gross or subtle emotions etc.
> This I has no form,
> > not even truth as we understand it.
> > 
> > This kind of I does not so easily identify with
> subjective states and
> > therefore it is capable of looking at also
> internal phenomenon from a
> > stable and calm position. It is very difficult to
> hurt this kind of I.
> > Still it also always looks at things from a
> perspective, maybe from
> > several perspectives, but never from all the
> possible and valid
> > perspectives.
> > 
> > I agree fully of the importance of surrendering
> the gross level
> > calculating intellect as an ultimate guiding
> light. We cannot evolve
> > to higher ways of being, or stages of development
> by relying on our
> > intellect. Our intellect can create only
> variations of structures
> > familiar to us. If we want to evolve we have to
> surrender and let
> > ourselves to be guided. But simultaneously our
> discriminative capacity
> > and sound judgement are great assets in avoiding
> pitfalls while
> > surrendering. Otherwise surrendering may
> insidiously change to
> > regression. And we start using intellect to find
> justifications to our
> > morally low actions. However the reality is
> usually more complicated
> > than this division because often surrender and
> regression are both
> > present and we are not capable of discriminating
> them from each other.
> > 
> > I also personally feel to be strongly guided. Not
> by any single being
> > in physical form, present or past, rather by all
> of them. I have also
> > surrendered to and am also guided by the
> transcendental  that is
> > beyond my understanding and intellect.
> > 
> > Irmeli
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Michael Dean
> Goodman
> > <Tantra@> wrote:
> > >
> > > THE STRUGGLE OF INDIVIDUALITY TO PERPETUATE ITS
> ILLUSION
> > > 
> > > I feel compassionately sad whenever I meet those
> who still cling
> > > to the idea that their individuality (individual
> intellect) can
> > > guide them to the goal of realization, of
> remembering, of waking
> > > up again to Reality.  They're sure that they
> don't need a guide
> > > on the path, don't need to surrender control,
> don't need to ask
> > > for help, and don't need to embrace their
> intellect's incompetence
> > > and impotence to handle the job.
> > > 
> > > They are sure that their relative, finite
> intellect, bound in the
> > > world of space and time, can grok and master
> infinity, the field
> > > without boundaries, far beyond the ken of the
> relative intellect.
> > > That is delusion, that is arrogance of the
> deepest kind, that is
> > > the very essence of ignorance.  Their individual
> ego/intellect has
> > > convinced them to trust it (not only to trust
> it, but to actually
> > > believe that they ARE it), and to never
> entertain the idea that the
> > > ego/intellect's assertion of its importance and
> ability to guide
> > > them "back home" IS ITSELF THE VERY CRUX OF THE
> PROBLEM, the very
> > > core of the ignorance.
> > > 
> > > HIRING THE THIEF TO CATCH THE THIEF
> > > 
> > > It is like hiring the master cat burglar (albeit
> in his clever dis-
> > > guise as the 'great detective') to solve the
> string of (his) burglar-
> > > ies.  The great detective (master burglar) will
> will NEVER EVER turn
> > > himself in, never participate in his own
> exposure, but instead will
> > > always have some encouraging progress report,
> and some inspiring vi-
> > > sion of possibilities, to "string us along" as
> long as possible, as
> > > he secretly continues his life of crime.
> > > 
> > > It is a very similar thing, to entrust our
> spiritual awakening to the
> > > ego/intellect consortium.  They ARE the problem,
> and putting them in
> > > charge of solving the problem is lunacy. 
> [Technically, the problem
> > > is our identification with them, our belief that
> we ARE them, that
> > > they are "in charge", that they are "all that
> there is".]  The real
> > > solution is not to "hire" them to guide us to
> realization, but to let
> > > go of them and remember our true status as the
> infinite field that is
> > > beyond them.  Instead of following them, we have
> to step out of their
> > > realm entirely, beyond where they can go, into
> the unbounded field of
> > > the Self.  Then they revert back to their real
> status as our servants,
> > > as managers of the relative field of life - and
> let go of the delusion
> > > that they are "hot stuff", "in charge", "the
> boss".
> > > 
> > > DISCRIMINATION - THE PATH TO CC
> > > 
> > > The path from ignorance to awakening IS a path
> of discrimination,
> > > but not discrimination by the relative
> intellect.  It is the waking
> > > up of the cosmic intellect from its immersion in
> illusion, from its
> > > identification with boundaries, with
> individuality, from its belief
> > > that it ever was (solely) the relative
> intellect.  It is the path
> > > of the infinite Self "waking up", curving back
> on its Self, and stop-
> > > ping its old habit of getting stuck in the
> finite boundaries.  It is
> > > the path of separating what is Real from what is
> not.  And the rela-
> > > tive ego/intellect is in the field of "what is
> not real", and there-
> > > fore hardly fit to lead us to the Real.  It is
> the path of the cosmic
> > > intellect regaining its settled, even state of
> being established in
> > > its own, infinite Self (sama-dhi = evenness of
> intellect).
> > > 
> > > BASED ON MY OWN EXPERIENCE -
> > > INDIVIDUAL INTELLECT TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT
> > > 
> > > I can say this so boldly, about the struggle of
> the individual ego/
> > > intellect to perpetuate its illusion and never
> admit it needs help,
> > > because I was very, very much there once; I know
> how that feels.  I
> > > have a very strong, powerful relative intellect.
>  I have a deep ten-
> > > dency in my relative personality to believe in
> self-sufficiency, to
> > > hold that I can/must take care of myself, be
> vigilant, figure it out,
> > > protect myself, etc.
> > > 
> > > So I tried figuring it out on my own (for many
> lifetimes, and for many
> > > years in this lifetime), sorting through the
> myriad philosophies, spi-
> > > ritual traditions, techniques, teachers...  I
> tried "interviewing"
> > > various teachers, testing them, evaluating them.
>  Until I met one that
> > > chose me.  I thought I chose him; I thought I
> poked and prodded with
> > > my intellect and discovered someone where I
> couldn't find any "holes",
> > > any inconsistencies, any weaknesses.  But
> looking back, in hindsight,
> > > that belief was still part of my delusion of
> independence and power
> > > of my ego/intellect.  In reality, it was just
> grace that he was offer-
> > > ed to me, it was just that I was ripe and being
> harvested by something
> > > so much beyond me, beyond the delusion of who I
> thought I was, that I
> > > couldn't conceive of It, much less evaluate and
> judge It.
> > > 
> > > So It presented me brilliantly with just the
> right qualities in a
> > > teacher that allowed my ego/intellect to feel
> safe, to relax, to let
> > > the armor down just enough that the inexorable
> process could begin
> > > [or move into its final phase after all that
> preparation time].
> > > 
> > > INDIVIDUAL INTELLECT RELAXES, AND FINALLY
> SURRENDERS
> > > 
> > > And even then it didn't happen all at once, my
> belief in the power
> > > of my relative ego/intellect didn't crumble, I
> didn't jump off the
> > > edge of some cliff.  I just started sliding down
> a very inviting
> > > but apparently gentle slope.  I kept getting
> seduced by It, so that
> > > the hold of my belief in the power of my
> relative ego/intellect faded
> > > over the course of a couple of years in stages. 
> Layer by layer, I
> > > struggled, but I let go.  I shifted from
> identifying with my indivi-
> > > dual ego/intellect to identifying with the Self,
> with cosmic ego/in-
> > > tellect.  I trusted something bigger to guide
> me.  And that "something
> > > bigger" was shown to me through the vehicle
> called "my teacher", "my
> > > Master", Maharishi.
> > > 
> > > 3 LABELS THROWN ABOUT ON THIS LIST
> > > 
> > > LABEL #1 - TRUE BELIEVERS
> > > 
> > > People on this list sometimes call me a "true
> believer".  I was once.
> > > In the beginning, in the 70s, I spoke and taught
> based on faith, on
> > > belief.  But that was a long time ago.  Now,
> most of my speech and
> > > behavior spontaneously arises from direct
> personal experience/under-
> > > standing, and from the source in cosmic mind -
> from awareness cur-
> > > ving back on its Self.  This makes life SO much
> simpler, so much
> > > easier.  ;)
> > > 
> > > When we live in a universe apparently ruled by
> the relative ego/in-
> > > tellect, then everything feels like it has to be
> "figured out",
> > > "checked out", evaluated, vigilantly watched and
> decided.  Discrimi-
> > > nation rules - our very existence feels like it
> depends on it.  One-
> > > upsmanship is the way - to make ourself "more
> OK" by making others
> > > "less OK", to "prove" ourselves "right" by
> making others "wrong", to
> > > bolster our sense of existence and safety and
> solidity by taking that
> > > away from others.  Certainly, handing over that
> personal discriminat-
> > > ing power to someone feels like danger, like
> foolishness.  We must
> > > avoid being "taken advantage of", being fooled,
> letting our guard
> > > down.  So its a great put-down to call each
> other "true believer" or
> > > "true non-believer", to imply that someone is
> blindly and indiscri-
> > > minately following a path.  And it puffs us up
> to position ourself
> > > as the "objective", "clear-minded", "logical"
> one.
> > > 
> > > But it's just a big illusion - no one is
> objective until they are re- 
> > > established in the Self.  That is the only
> uninvolved, neutral, free-
> > > from-desire, free-from-fear vantage point. 
> Everyone else is just un-
> > > knowingly supporting their deep beliefs (which
> are often based on un-
> > > conscious traumas and the resulting
> constrictions), by cherry-picking
> > > among the available "evidence".  What's called
> "objective",
> "truthful", 
> > > "right" by many turns out to be merely that
> which supports their exis-
> > > tence, comfort, safety...that which supports
> their relative, and often
> > > skewed, world-view.
> > > 
> > > To the relative intellect, concepts like
> intuition, feelings,
> devotion, 
> > > surrender, submission, homage, bhakti, etc. feel
> so foreign - more
> than 
> > > foreign, they feel dangerous.  They threaten the
> intellect's carefully
> > > held-together illusion of stability and safety.
> > > 
> > > In my experience "true-belief" is a stage - to
> carry you on the path
> > > until direct experience and understanding catch
> up and take over. When
> > > the Self comes back to its Self, and the
> universe "ruled" by the rela-
> > > tive ego/intellect is seen objectively, then
> there is no more need to
> > > be a "believer" of any stripe, to take someone
> else's word for it.
> > > Then you can take your own word for it, the word
> of the Self; you
> speak
> > > from The Truth, rather than from your
> individually-colored truth or
> > > beliefs.
> > > 
> > > And only at that point, established in the Self,
> do those words like
> > > "devotion", "surrender", "bhakti" actually start
> to have any real
> > > meaning.  Only at that point is there something
> real to actually sur-
> > > render.  Our surrender of the relative intellect
> to step into the
> > > field of the Self was the surrender of an
> illusion, of a "shadow".
> > > But to surrender who we really are to God - to
> transform Self-reali-
> > > zation into God-realization - that is surrender
> worthy of the name.
> > > Only at that point does the real opening of the
> heart take over,
> > > does the path of discrimination (separating)
> turn into the path of
> > > love (merging).
> > > 
> > > Most people who've not realized the Self know,
> somewhere deep inside,
> > > that no matter how strongly they present their
> views, and how much
> > > one-upsmanship they foist on others to try and
> make their own position
> > > look solid and right by making others wrong,
> their whole thing is
> built
> > > on quicksand - there is nothing solid, stable,
> true anywhere in their
> > > world.  They know that everything is relative,
> slippery/slidey - and
> > > that the only way to find any slight stability
> is to use the intellect
> > > to build a structure of beliefs that looks
> solid.
> > > 
> > > So those who haven't had that real, objective
> experience of living
> > > from the Self, and who haven't directly
> experienced that there is
> > > non-relative, non-slippery, non-changing
> absolute Truth - often as-
> > > sume that anyone who speaks clearly and firmly
> must have been "brain-
> > > washed", taken in, hypnotized...OR they must be
> an ego-maniac.  The
> > > idea that someone could be speaking from direct,
> personal, innocent
> > > experience of unchanging Truth is difficult for
> them to grok.  And
> > > the concept that someone would be willing to
> take that absolute Truth
> > > and "give it up" for something greater, for some
> urge of the heart,
> > > is even more baffling.
> > > 
> > > LABEL #2 - INSIDER
> > > 
> > > People on this list sometimes call me an insider
> in the TM Movement.
> > > I was once.  I founded and ran one of the
> biggest TM Centers in the
> > > country (Chicago), helped create the corporate
> TM Program (AFSCI),
> > > taught credit TM/SCI classes at colleges, was
> trained as a Special
> > > Techniques teacher, led international ATRs and
> TTCs and AEGTCs,
> > > edited Maharishi knowledge tapes, ran the
> International Film and Tape
> > > Library in Switzerland, spent years on deep
> meditation courses under
> > > Maharishi's personal guidance, searched out and
> bid on multi-million
> > > dollar real estate projects for Maharishi
> (Capitals Project), headed
> > > up one of the three divisions at the National
> Headquarters at Living-
> > > ston Manor while doing Minister Training, helped
> organize the big
> > > Amherst course that ultimately brought all the
> people to Fairfield,
> > > lived in Fairfield for almost 20 years (I still
> own a house there),
> > > served on the board of the MIU "chamber of
> commerce" that helped bus-
> > > inesses move to Fairfield, renovated MIU's dorms
> when their condition
> > > threatened MIU's accreditation (and didn't lose
> my shirt in the pro-
> > > cess!), created a multi-million dollar business
> that was one of the
> > > top 10 sidha employers in Fairfield in its day,
> taught on MIU's Con-
> > > tinuing Ed faculty, helped inspire and research
> the huge Taste of
> > > Utopia course that brought over 7000 to
> Fairfield, did my years of
> > > tapas in the Golden Domes...
> > > 
> > > And for 20 years now I've done NONE of that - no
> direct ties or re-
> > > sponsibilities to the TM Movement.  I left the
> "student phase of life"
> > > and became a householder, as Maharishi urged. 
> I'd "run that gauntlet"
> > > of life within the Movement - sometimes
> gracefully, sometimes pain-
> > > fully.  My time inside the TM Movement did its
> job, bore its fruit,
> > > and wasn't needed anymore.
> > > 
> > > So I've long been my own man - doing many things
> that get some peo-
> > > ple into very hot water with the Movement - I
> run satsangs and I talk
> > > about experiences, I publicly discuss knowledge
> on the internet, I
> > > teach tantra, I do counseling, I run spiritual
> workshops, I've stud-
> > > ied and taught many healing techniques, I've
> brought teachers to Fair-
> > > field that have affected hundreds of meditators
> lives, I interact with
> > > many spiritual teachers, I read "forbidden"
> books, I expound contro-
> > > versial views, I teach about sexuality and am at
> home with my own and
> > > with its place on the spiritual path, I explore
> and lecture about and
> > > do counseling with people living alternative
> relationship styles -
> > > controversial styles such as polyamory,
> bdsm/fetish, swinging, tantra,
> > > lgbt, etc.)...
> > > 
> > > So, based on my current interests/activities,
> you could say I am very
> > > much an outsider in relation to official TM
> Movement positions, but
> > > still very much an insider to my Master.  He is
> inside me; I am inside
> > > him.  Where could I go that he isn't?  And he
> introduced me to my God,
> > > and brought Him/Her to sit down inside me and
> begin expanding.  I bow
> > > down to Maharishi for all that.
> > > 
> > > If you have a teacher, who is a conduit for the
> Self, the infinite, to
> > > shine through - and if you still think that has
> much of anything to do
> > > with that teacher's relative body, relative
> personality, relative be-
> > > havior - then you are still at a very immature
> level of relationship
> > > to your teacher, and a very immature level of
> utilizing that conduit
> > > to the infinite.  Maharishi is my "worm-hole" to
> the Self, to God, to
> > > That.
> > > 
> > > TRUE DEVOTION - REAL BHAKTI - WHO HAS IT?
> > > 
> > > 1. THE PERSONAL-CONTACT RULE FOR TRUE BHAKTI
> > > 
> > > Someone commented that I couldn't claim devotion
> to Maharishi if I
> > > haven't seen him (his relative body) in person
> for a long time.  (So
> > > I'm curious, where does the boundary line come
> that distinguishes real
> > > devotion?  Does seeing Maharishi far off across
> a big lecture hall
> > > count?  Does it count if he's in the next room,
> speaking over a sound
> > > system?  What about seeing him live on TV - but
> from the next room,
> > > the next town, the next continent?  What about
> streaming live internet
> > > video?  Or videotapes/CDs - how recent do they
> have to be?  Do audio-
> > > tapes count - you're not literally "seeing" him?
>  What about telephone
> > > calls, letters, etc.?  How close in time/space
> do I have to get to him
> > > to qualify as a "true devotee"?  How often do I
> have to get that
> close?
> > > Does it count if he's thinking of me, or if I'm
> thinking of him?  How
> > > often?)   Obviously, from my laughing sarcasm,
> in my experience this
> > > person's comment reflects a very limited,
> relative, basic-level view
> > > of devotion.
> > > 
> > > It's not Maharishi's relative body that I relate
> to much anymore; it
> > > is his expanded reality, his cosmic presence,
> his omnipresence, the
> > > awareness that he is.  He lives in me, as my
> Self.  I live in him.
> > > It's his thinking, in his role as a
> reflector/conduit of That, that
> > > I attune myself to and become ever more deeply. 
> Our relationship is
> > > on that level.
> > > 
> > > 2. THE WELCOME-IN-THE-MOVEMENT RULE FOR TRUE
> BHAKTI
> > > 
> > > Someone commented that, with all my activities,
> I'd never be welcome
> > > anymore in the Movement, or to represent it, and
> wondered how I could
> > > be devoted to Maharishi and yet not able to
> participate in his Move-
> > > ment.
> > > 
> > > First, that actually isn't what I find.  Just
> two years ago, living
> > > in Fairfield, I was invited to do knowledge
> presentations for a cam-
> > > pus advanced lecture program for students.  And
> because I have no
> > > major power issues - with the Movement, or with
> masculine authority
> > > in general - I get a program badge when I apply,
> without hassle. Also,
> > > I'm on the Movement's various e-mail lists
> (national and local), and
> > > I go to TM Movement events in my local area
> occasionally; I am
> respect-
> > > fully welcomed as an experienced teacher/leader
> and even asked to take
> > > on responsibilities now and then (which I rarely
> have the time or in-
> > > clination for).
> > > 
> > > Second, even if I couldn't do these things, they
> are irrelevant to my
> > > devotion to my Master.  There was a time, when I
> was more identified
> > > with the field of boundaries, that my
> involvement or not in activities
> > > on that level was important, made me feel
> connected...  When I didn't
> > > have Maharishi established inside me, as the
> Self, than contact with
> > > his "trappings", his Movement, offered some
> solace, some comfort.
> > > 
> > > But my relationship to Maharishi now transcends
> these specific rela-
> > > tive activities.  The TM activities that I can
> or can't participate
> > > in neither add to nor diminish my love for
> Maharishi, or my connec-
> > > tion to the Self (for which he acts as my
> conduit, or touchstone).
> > > 
> > > To me, the TM Movement, with all its activities,
> is a kind of train-
> > > ing facility, a place to test yourself, temper
> yourself, strengthen
> > > yourself; it's also a place to take refuge when
> you need to escape
> > > the world, and for some a place to hide; it's
> definitely a place to
> > > burn up karma.  The TM Movement is a kind of a
> spiritual "game" - a
> > > gauntlet to run - and you'd better be awake and
> know what you're get-
> > > ting into if you choose to enter that arena. 
> It's Maharishi's Move-
> > > ment - and a big mirror of the world's karma -
> but it's certainly not
> > > the only path to Maharishi.
> > > 
> > > 3. THE FOLLOW-EVERY-INSTRUCTION-TO-THE-LETTER
> RULE FOR TRUE BHAKTI
> > > 
> > > Someone commented that I couldn't claim devotion
> to Maharishi if I'm
> > > not following every "instruction" that he gives.
>  Again, this is a
> > > very narrow, immature view of the relationship
> to a Master.  If only
> > > it were that simple.  ;)
> > > 
> > > Q: Does Maharishi ever give apparently
> contradictory instructions?
> > > A: Often.
> > > 
> > > Q: How do you resolve those?
> > > A: By tuning into the Self, to Maharishi's
> thinking as That; so these
> > >     contradictions become an invitation to
> further attune yourself to
> > >     the Self - much more important on that level
> than on the level of
> > >     performance, of action.
> > > 
> > > Q: Does Maharishi ever give individuals
> instructions which contradict
> > >     his general public instructions?
> > > A: Often.
> > >     So, based on outer appearances/behaviors,
> you can't really tell
> > >     if someone is following Maharishi's
> instructions or not.  That's
> > >     a very personal, private thing that you'd
> likely not have access
> > >     to.
> > > 
> > > Q: Does Maharishi ever give individuals direct
> instructions to ignore
> > >     some of his public instructions, no matter
> how that "looks" to
> > >     others?
> > > A: I've experienced this personally.
> > > 
> > > Q: Does Maharishi ever give one group of people
> one instruction, and
> > >     another group an apparently contradictory
> one?
> > > A: Often - causing them to either have a huge
> conflict, or to act as
> > >     "checks and balances" on each other.
> > > 
> > > Q: Does Maharishi ever give an instruction, and
> later completely re-
> > >     verse it?
> > > A: Of course - we've discussed that here many
> times.
> > > 
> > > Q: Does Maharishi ever give so many instructions
> (for various daily
> > >     practices, routine, study, etc.), and then
> other instructions
> > >     (for activities to accomplish, family
> duties, etc.), that there
> > >     would not be enough hours in the day to do
> them all?
> > > A: Of course.
> > > 
> > > Q: Does Maharishi ever give instructions that
> have different mean-
> > >     ings at different levels of consciousness,
> at different places
> > >     on the path - or that may appear to mean one
> thing, but on deep-
> > >     er investigation mean something different?
> > > A: All the time.
> > > 
> > > Q: Does Maharishi ever give instructions to test
> you - test your
> > >     attachment to something, or your devotion,
> or whatever?
> > > A: Sure - not for his sake, but to point out to
> you where you're
> > >     stuck, or attached.  And once you've had
> that insight, he some-
> > >     times retracts the instruction, and doesn't
> make you go through
> > >     with the difficult thing.
> > > 
> > > This whole question of "following the Master's
> instructions" is much
> > > richer, much deeper than your question implies -
> than the simple idea
> > > of mindlessly following orders.  It is a field
> ripe with possibilities
> > > for attuning your mind to cosmic mind, for
> alert, wide-awake devotion.
> > > It's as complicated, or simple, as life itself.
> > > 
> > > So, since you don't know what instructions I've
> been given - public-
> > > ly or privately - what my "program" is, what my
> responsibilities or
> > > assignments in life are, etc., you really have
> absolutely no way to
> > > tell how well I'm following Maharishi's
> instructions, do you?  Nor
> > > would you have any need to; that would be a very
> private thing between
> > > Master and devotee.
> > > 
> > > The only thing of any value for you to do in
> this arena, is to focus
> > > your attention on YOUR instructions, YOUR
> understanding of them, and
> > > YOUR success in following them.
> > > 
> > > Here's a story that illustrates the ease with
> which we can misinter-
> > > pret another's path:
> > > 
> > > YOUNG GURU DEV AND THE CAVE
> > > 
> > > Maharishi tells the story of a young Guru Dev,
> who may have been
> > > around 11 or 12 years old at the time, and was a
> newcomer to the
> > > ashram of his Master:
> > > 
> > > The Master had given young Guru Dev instruction
> in meditation.  And
> > > he quietly told him to leave the hustle and
> bustle of the ashram and
> > > go practice in silence, in the caves in the
> hills nearby.  So for
> > > some time, young Guru Dev was not seen much
> around the ashram.
> > > 
> > > The Master's ashram had many people in it,
> including some senior
> > > disciples who had been with the Master for
> decades, and were very
> > > learned in the Vedas.  They had some subtle ego
> about their posi-
> > > tion, and some resentment of the obvious deep
> relationship young
> > > Guru Dev, a mere boy, had developed so quickly
> with their Master.
> > > So, when he disappeared from the ashram, they
> were secretly pleased,
> > > assuming that he'd done something to displease
> the Master, or was
> > > found to be too young and immature to handle the
> ashram life.
> > > 
> > > One day, after many months had passed, a holiday
> approached and
> > > the Master expressed to his senior staff a
> desire to take a re-
> > > treat of silence in a cave up in the hills.  He
> sent his top dis-
> > > ciple to the hills to seek out and prepare a
> proper cave for him
> > > to reside in.  He reminded the disciple that
> young Guru Dev was
> > > living in one of those caves, and because of his
> familiarity with
> > > the area, he should be consulted about the cave
> selection.
> > > 
> > > So the chief disciple arrived at the caves in
> the hills, and sought
> > > out young Guru Dev, finding him meditating in
> his cave.
> > > 
> > > The chief disciple said: "I am on a very
> important mission for the
> > > Master.  He has sent me here to find him an
> empty cave in which to
> > > reside.  Please help me to find one suitable for
> him - unoccupied,
> > > clean, large, dry, etc. - since you are familiar
> with this area."
> > > 
> > > After a brief hesitation, young Guru Dev said:
> "Please tell the
> > > Master: 'There is no empty cave here'".
> > > 
> > > The chief disciple, thinking that the young boy
> was not taking the
> > > mission seriously, said: "Of course there are
> empty caves here; I
> > > passed some on my way to find you.  Please help
> me to find a suit-
> > > able one!  The Master has commanded it."
> > > 
> > > Quietly, but firmly, young Guru Dev said: "Are
> you not here on a
> > > mission for the Master?  Are you not his
> messenger?"
> > > 
> > > The chief disciple answered: "Yes, but..."
> > > 
> > > "No 'buts'" said young Guru Dev.  "You may be
> the chief disciple,
> > > but today your role is that of a messenger.  You
> were instructed
> > > to bring me a question, and now your job is to
> take my answer back
> > > to the Master.  Respectfully, I ask that you
> please do just that,
> > > do your duty.  The question from the Master, to
> be asked of me, was
> > > 'Is there a suitable empty cave there?'  The
> answer I'd like you to
> > > deliver, word-for-word, is: 'There is no empty
> cave here'."
> > > 
> > > The chief disciple, astounded at the audacity of
> this young boy to
> > > speak to him this way, left.  He surveyed some
> caves on his own and
> > > then went back to the ashram to report on his
> mission, and especial-
> > > ly this arrogant boy's behavior, to the Master.
> > > 
> > > But first, he discussed this rudeness with the
> other senior disci-
> > > ples.  They agreed that it would be most
> instructive (and embarras-
> > > sing), to young Guru Dev, and to other young
> disciples, to have this
> > > issue raised in the ashram-wide satsang that
> happened with the Master
> > > each afternoon.  They knew that young Guru Dev
> came down from his cave
> > > each Friday for supplies, and attended the
> satsang, and they waited
> > > patiently overnight, since the next day was
> Friday.
> > > 
> > > Overnight, the ashram was abuzz with rumors of
> the young boy who had
> > > disrespected the chief disciple, and the Master.
>  Everyone made a
> > > point to attend the afternoon satsang to see
> what the Master would
> > > do to this insolent boy.
> > > 
> > > At the appropriate time in the satsang, the
> elder disciples moved
> > > to broach the subject.  But rather than appear
> blatantly accusatory,
> > > they instead chose to bring up the subject in
> the form of a hypo-
> > > thetical knowledge question.  They asked:
> "Master, is it not a great
> > > sin for a disciple to disrespect or disobey the
> Master?"  "And is
> > > that sin not extended to the senior disciples of
> the Master, acting
> > > on his business?"  "Master, is not the
> punishment for such a serious
> > > offense, banishment from the ashram?"
> > > 
> > > To all of these, the Master responded "yes".
> > > 
> > > Having set the stage in this way, the senior
> disciple then related
> > > the behavior of young Guru Dev the previous day,
> and the members
> > > of the ashram were shocked.
> > > 
> > > The Master strongly said: "Young man, step
> forward and explain your
> > > behavior to the whole ashram."
> > > 
> > > Young Guru Dev stepped into the center of the
> gathering, directly
> > > in front of the Master, clasped his hands in
> devotion, and pros-
> > > trated to the Master.  When the Master directed
> him to rise, he
> > > calmly spoke these words:
> > > 
> > > "Master, when your chief disciple found me, and
> asked me that ques-
> > > tion from you, I knew that it had a deeper
> meaning than the appar-
> > > ent surface one.  Surely, with all these great,
> long-time disciples,
> > > with all their wisdom and experience, and with
> all those here who've
> > > spent much time in those caves, and some who
> live there now, and
> > > with your own great spiritual vision, I knew
> that you did not actual-
> > > ly need my advice on picking a physical cave. 
> So the meaning of your
> > > question was immediately obvious.  You were
> asking me something much
> > > deeper, about the condition of my spiritual
> practice that you had
> > > assigned me and sent me to the hills to do.
> > > 
> > > "And when I looked inside, and surveyed the
> situation, I realized that
> > > somehow you had been very successful in your
> work with me, because
> > > when I looked into the only cave about which I
> had any valuable infor-
> > > mation, my heart cave, I found that it was
> completely full - full with
> > > you.  No matter where I looked, there was not a
> bit of vacant space
> > > there; there was no place that you were not
> already.  So I
> respectfully
> > > told the chief disciple: please report to the
> Master, and tell him
> > > 'There is no vacant cave here'.  It was the
> simple, obvious, truthful
> > > answer to your real question."
> > > 
> > > With that, the whole ashram was astounded, for
> they saw that where
> > > they had perceived an insolent young boy, there
> was a devotee who
> > > had innocently accomplished what they dreamed
> of, who had become
> > > the true reflection of the Master.  Everyone,
> from the chief disci
> > > ple to the barest beginner in the ashram, felt
> the wave of love that
> > > connected the Master and young Guru Dev, and
> were reminded how im-
> > > portant it is to put their attention on the
> depth of things, rather
> > > than let their attention get caught in the
> boundaries.
> > > 
> > > LABEL #3 - IGNORING MAHARISHI'S FAULTS
> > > 
> > > People on this list sometimes accuse me of
> ignoring all the talk
> > > about Maharishi's "relative behaviors, flaws,
> faults, inconsistencies,
> > > mistakes, harmful actions"...  It's amazing how
> people who don't know
> > > me can project so much onto me.  I read this
> list, and many others
> > > about TM and Maharishi, pretty religiously, and
> with clarity and
> alert-
> > > ness.  I could repeat your stories and
> complaints and arguments better
> > > than some of you can.  I stay alert to
> discriminate what is fact, what
> > > is opinion, what is rumor.  I pay attention to
> the motives and
> feelings
> > > of those who raise these issues.  I watch for
> the degree of obsession/
> > > attachment of the reporters.  I use all this as
> opportunities to exa-
> > > mine my own feelings, to open my heart even
> more, and to attune to
> > > cosmic intelligence.
> > > 
> > > But even more relevant, I lived around and
> reported to Maharishi for
> > > years, more than most (not all) of you, saw many
> things, and could add
> > > stories to yours - not rumors or 3rd-hand
> accounts, but stories that
> > > powerfully impacted on me and my feelings and
> caused tremendous
> upheav-
> > > al and soul-searching.  I know what it's like to
> face that fork in the
> > > road in relationship to Maharishi/the Movement:
> (1) be deeply hurt,
> > > yield to anger, blame something "out there",
> close up, become a
> victim;
> > > vs. (2) feel the pain, dive into it, embrace the
> karma, explore the
> > > lesson, thank Master/Nature for that purifying
> fire, expand.
> > > 
> > > The thing is, I've come to realize that none of
> these discussions
> > > about Maharishi's individual personality and
> behaviors, taken on the
> > > relative level, are important to me.  Maharishi
> was presented to me
> > > to be my conduit to the Self, to God, to That. 
> "Tat padam dharshitam
> > > yena - by which the sign of That has been
> revealed."  He serves that
> > > role beautifully.  I am blessed to have that
> conduit, and selfishly
> > > make use of it.
> > > 
> > > I can direct my attention toward that conduit in
> such a way that I
> > > invite it to open and pour its blessings on me
> more and more and
> > > create more connection/unity (that kind of
> attention is called
> > > devotion/bhakti); or I can direct my attention
> toward that conduit
> > > in such a way that I invite it to close and shut
> down and create
> > > more separateness/fear (that kind of attention
> is called doubt/
> > > criticism).  We each have that choice of how to
> approach a conduit
> > > to infinity.
> > > 
> > > CONCLUSION ABOUT LABELING
> > > 
> > > So when people try to paint me with their broad
> brush of "true be-
> > > liever" and "insider" and "intellectually weak
> devotee and ignorer
> > > of the facts" - it just makes me laugh and
> laugh.  The things we
> > > try to project onto others is often a mirror of
> what we don't want
> > > to admit to in ourself, or fear in ourself, or
> censor in ourself.
> > > Lovingly I say to you, the next time you call
> someone a "true
> > > believer", see if you aren't just as much a
> "true non-believer" -
> > > just as stuck, blinded by your own emotional
> traumas, etc.  The
> > > next time you call someone an "insider", see if
> you aren't resent-
> > > ing being an "outsider" - unloved, unbelonging,
> abandoned.  The
> > > next time you call someone an "unthinking,
> deluded bhakti", see
> > > if you aren't an over-thinking believer in
> individuality, afraid to
> > > let down your guard, to open up your heart. 
> These labels only re-
> > > veal your own doubts and cynicisms.
> > > 
> > > In my next post I'll address self-doubt and
> cynicism, and the role
> > > of profound trust and surrender, not as the
> negation of intellectual
> > > inquiry, but as the true foundations for alert
> and meaningful ques-
> > > tioning.
> > > 
> > > Namaste,
> > > 
> > > Michael
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