--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > 0> > I did say in that in the early stages there may be > > > > some very slight effort until the automatic cycle > > > > is established. > > > > > > What if that "automatic cycle" is NEVER established? Does this > mean > > > that someone is doing it "incorrectly?" > > > > > > > I guess many people who for instance see different colours when > they > > hear sounds of different pitches think that everybody has that > > gift. My TM-instructor said, as I recall it, that some people have > > "echo-mantra", and for them TM is especially easy to learn, because > > there certainly is absolutely no effort when they > > are meditating. > > Just for the record, it was some months after I learned > to meditate that it began to be completely effortless. > I'm not sure what "echo-mantra" is, or whether I "have" > it even now, but I seriously doubt I "had" it when I > started. > > Also, to clarify something: To this day, I don't > always have 100 percent effortless meditations all > the way through a meditation session by any means; > and as I've described elsewhere, I had a period of > some months awhile back in which meditation always > had some subtle effort. > > What I'm contending is that only when TM is 100 > percent effortless is one actually practicing TM. > So in a given session, I may be practicing TM only > for a portion of that session.
I would say, rather, that as long as you have the understanding that no effort is *required*, that your practice of TM, no matter if 100% effortless, or only 97.3% effortless (or whatever), is still a valid TM session. Assigning value judgements to your practice isn't the best way to spend your time... > > > That "automatic cycle" might be a slightly different > > thing, but I wouldn't say my meditation is like that. As I've told > > before, I sometimes even pay some attention to the final sound > > of my mantra, because my mother tongue doesn't have that sound > > *at the end of words*, excepting a couple of onomatopoetic words. > > Have you consulted a TM teacher about this? > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
