--- In [email protected], cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], cardemaister <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], cardemaister <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is TM dhyânam, as defined in Maharshi Patañjali's > > > > > Yoga-darshanam (yoga-suutras)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that MMY says TM is the simplest and most important > > form of > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > In aSTânga-yoga pratyâhâra is before dhâraNâ and dhyânam, > > > but IMO in TM pratyâhâra usually "happens" after one has > > > meditated for a while. > > > > > > > Well, MMY has always claimed that people have reversed the order in > > which things are practiced in the Yoga Sutras... What is pratyâhâra > > again? > > > > II 54 > > sva-viSayaasaMprayoge citta-svaruupaanukaara > ivendriyaaNaaM pratyaahaaraH > > sva-viSaya (their) own-object(s) > asaMprayoge not coming into contact > citta (of) the individual mind's > sva-ruupa own form; nature > anukaaraH the imitating or functioning according to > iva as if; like > indriyaaNaam by the senses > pratyaahaaraH abstraction > > Taimni's translation: > > Pratyaahaara or abstraction is, as it were, the > imitation by the senses of the mind by withdrawing > themselves from their objects. >
Wow. That's a toughee to wrap my poor little brain around. I think "imitation" is a bad use there because it involves, in English at least, the very term that is being defined. Perhaps: abstraction is a function of the senses in the mind when they are withdrawn from the original object of perception. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
