--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister > <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is TM dhyânam, as defined in Maharshi Patañjali's > > > > > > Yoga-darshanam (yoga-suutras)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that MMY says TM is the simplest and most important > > > form of > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In aSTânga-yoga pratyâhâra is before dhâraNâ and dhyânam, > > > > but IMO in TM pratyâhâra usually "happens" after one has > > > > meditated for a while. > > > > > > > > > > Well, MMY has always claimed that people have reversed the order > in > > > which things are practiced in the Yoga Sutras... What is > pratyâhâra > > > again? > > > > > > > II 54 > > > > sva-viSayaasaMprayoge citta-svaruupaanukaara > > ivendriyaaNaaM pratyaahaaraH > > > > sva-viSaya (their) own-object(s) > > asaMprayoge not coming into contact > > citta (of) the individual mind's > > sva-ruupa own form; nature > > anukaaraH the imitating or functioning according to > > iva as if; like > > indriyaaNaam by the senses > > pratyaahaaraH abstraction > > > > Taimni's translation: > > > > Pratyaahaara or abstraction is, as it were, the > > imitation by the senses of the mind by withdrawing > > themselves from their objects. > > > > Wow. That's a toughee to wrap my poor little brain around. > > I think "imitation" is a bad use there because it involves, in > English at least, the very term that is being defined. > > Perhaps: abstraction is a function of the senses in the mind when > they are withdrawn from the original object of perception. >
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