--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff 
<no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > And I think there is *some*.  The most glaring evidence
> > > > that something funny was going on is what happened on
> > > > the stock market in the days before the attack.  I
> > > > haven't seen anybody even attempt to make a case that
> > > > that was benign.
> > > 
> > > From the Loose  Change video, their argument was that trading 
in
> > > Boeing options volume was 2x,3x and 5x or something some days 
or 
> > weeks
> > > prior to 9/11. In itself, that means nothing. Stock or option 
> > volume
> > > can vary widely -- on any number of factors -- including quite 
> > mundane
> > > and benign ones. Look to the Force Luke (and Judy) -- aka the
> > > statistics 101 class you took years ago. 
> > > 
> > > How many standard deviations from the mean was the event(s)? 
The 
> > above
> > > numbers could have been 1 SD -- quite frequent, or a six-sigma 
> > event
> > > --- very, very rare. Present the statistics (Yahoo Finance may 
> > have),
> > > then make a case. 
> > > 
> > > For fun I might look up the data and see. I bet it was an event
> > > happening once every 3-12 months, or 1-4 times a year or more. 
> > > 
> > > And why focus only on Boeing? If the market as a whole dumped 
after
> > > 9/11 (after market reopenened in 3-4 days, as I recall. Why 
not 
> > just
> > > short the S&P 500 or buy puts options on the S&P 500. That 
would be
> > > much harder to see and trace anomolies due to volume.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Fortunately, the good people at Yahoo! Finance lets you see the 
> > historical trading volume and prices for any given stock.
> > 
> > For Boeing from August 1, 2001 to September 11, 2001, here is 
the 
> > daily volume and closing prices of the stock (hey, I got to do 
> > another tiny url!):
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/ncl7l
> > 
> > One can take any stock and do similar research for it.
> > 
> > So I fully expect Judy-Petooty to roll up her sleeves and back 
up 
> > the nutty statement she made in a previous post regarding that 
this 
> > is where the key evidence is to be found.
> > 
> > Get to work, Judy!
> 
> I think the video referred to Boeing OPTIONS not stock.




I haven't looked yet, but I think one can research historical 
options prices on Yahoo! also.  If not I'm sure there is a record 
somewhere of it.





> The volume
> options is usually more volatile than stocks. But even the stock, 
in
> July, had 4:1 spikes in volume. Not so unusual. And I am sure the
> options volume fluctuated more. Supporting Shemps point, and my 
point
> in adjacent post. A 4:1 spike means nothing by itself. One needs to
> see how many standard deviations from the mean that is. Or some 
other
> appropriate statistical test -- e.g., a regression line of options
> volume, and deviations from it. 
> 
> Which supports the point I made in an adjacent post.
>






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