--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> 
wrote:
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
<no_reply@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > An elitist superstition codified
> > > > > > is no less of an elitist superstition.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Note that he justifies his own non-Shankaracharya-hood 
> > > > > based on the Jyotish chart...
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think I get your point, if you had one. 
> > > > 
> > > > Seems to me that to claim that caste is based 
> > > > on one's Jyotish chart (it's not...it's based
> > > > on the caste of the birth parents) is a way to
> > > > claim that one is *eligible* for a position open
> > > > only to Brahmans simply because one can find an
> > > > astrologer willing to say that the person is a
> > > > "Brahman based on his chart."
> > > 
> > > And yet, what if MMY *was* being considered for the position 
> > > until his chart was made? Justifying his lack of position 
> > > due to his chart certainly gives him an out that admitting 
> > > that his family name was recognized as "unworthy" by the 
> > > Jyotishi doesn't.
> > 
> > I honestly don't know which strikes me as more
> > pathetic -- a man so insecure and vain as to still
> > be hung up on events that happened over 50 years 
> > ago, still trying to justify them in his mind, or 
> > a follower of that insecure man who is hung up 
> > on the same thing.
> 
> Heh. It just jives with what I have heard about why MMY couldn't
> become Shankaracharya. I 
> mean, think about it: a birth-chart consists of 3 things: time 
> of birth, place of birth and name.
> 
> Most people think of the time and place as being the most
> important for such a chart, but 
> what if it was *name* and place that gave the jyotishi pause?

And what if it was the monkeys flying out of 
Maharishi's butt that 'gave them pause.'  :-)

Face it, dude...this is about YOUR need to feel
important because you like to think of yourself
as studying with someone who was qualified to be 
Shankaracharya. There is no evidence that Maharishi 
was *ever* considered qualified, or was *ever* con-
sidered for the position, and there probably never 
will be.  You'd just like to believe that it's true.

It's OVER. He wasn't qualified then, and he isn't
qualified now. He went on and did other things with
his life, some of them good, some of them not so
good. His place in history (assuming he even has 
one) will be based on those things that he actually
did, not on anyone's fantasies about what he could
have done.

To his credit, he invented a simple beginner's 
technique of meditation that was easy to learn
and that could give people a taste of who they
really are.  To his discredit, at a certain point
he stopped promoting this technique, and in fact
did almost everything in his power to make it
unavailable except to an elite few.  Personally,
I don't think the positivity of the former actions 
outweighs the negativity of the latter actions,
but that's up to the laws of karma to figure out, 
not me.

All in all, when it comes to traversing the Bardo 
and having to deal with your own karma, I'd much
rather be me than be Maharishi.  I think he's going
to have a pretty rough ride.








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