--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Apr 9, 2006, at 7:48 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 9, 2006, at 7:41 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Apr 9, 2006, at 3:49 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > MMY's simple test for someone in Brahman Chetana is: "can
> > they
> > > > float?"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Since CC is associated with yoga/samkhya-darshana and
> > Patanjali's
> > > > > yoga-sutra why would they not be able to float having 
achieved
> > > > > turiyatita ("CC")?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, at one point he was saying clear sidhis was the test of 
cc.
> > >
> > > I thought so. Sparaig has repeatedly claimed this, only to be 
told
> > > differently by close students of M.--but then he keeps on
> > repeating
> > > it! What's up with that?
> > >
> > > It would be a major contradiction in terms of the three main TM
> > > darshanas if it was as he claimed.
> > >
> >
> > Er, not really. Just as there is transcendence and "Transcendence"
> > during meditation, and finally, nirva-kalpa samadhi; there can be
> > different implications for using the same general terms. What did 
> > MMY mean by '"clear" sidhis' and "CC" in this context?
> 
> Honestly, I could care less.

You care enough to dump on Lawson for citing his
understanding, and dump on MMY for purportedly
teaching something you believe to be contradictory
to your understanding.

What you mean is, "I don't know."  But that's
really tough for you to say, apparently.

> However I would assume by clear siddhis  
> he meant perfect performance of the siddhi and by CC, "turiyatita".

In other words, you don't know.








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