--- In [email protected], anon_couscous_ff 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], anon_couscous_ff 
> > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That it [the Onion article] was an effective satire 
> > > [of the caste system] is obvious. Case closed.
> > 
> > Well, since I'm not bound to live my life the way you
> > think I should, I'll reopen it, in its own thread.  :-)
> 
> My wording was not well-crafted. I did not mean to imply that the
> thread or topic should be closed -- but rather we are not 
obligated to
> discuss something you feel we should (was the satire effective), 
and
> ignore all others (the different types of satire)  -- because you 
deem
> them "diversions". 
> 
> But since you raise the topic in its OWN thread, well that changes
> everything. :)
> 
> > I honestly believe that a lot of folks here ARE
> > uncomfortable with the subject of the caste system
> > coming up on this forum. And I think that the reason 
> > they're uncomfortable with this is that Maharishi 
> > *clearly* believes in it and supports it, and they're 
> > *embarrassed* by the fact that he believes in it.
> 
> Well MMY says a lot of things that an employee and tight, close
> follower would and should feel uncomfortable with. Thats why a lot 
of
> people who were such, are no longer (close followers). I think the
> latter is a much larger group here, and in the world, is much 
larger
> that the former. So when you say "a lot of people", its a bit odd 
to
> me --  its a relatively small group.
>  
> > Only a couple of weeks ago, someone posted a long
> > quote of Maharishi's in which he not only supported
> > the concept of the caste system, 
> 
> The BIG question is how various parties are defining the 
LABEL "caste
> system". I think there are many different connotations and
> implications for the same word. Without clearly defining the what 
the
> words "caste system" means to then, people are discussing apples 
and
> oranges. Or apples and fish.
> 
> In his MMY high level way -- a la "its easier for people to learn 
the
> craft, business or professon of thier family -- and then they have
> more time for spiritual stuff." Thats basically HIS definition. He
> didn't say anything or support social discrimination, sub-castes, 
or
> even inter-caste marriage (which the vedas allow -- with 
guidelines).
> 
I tend to agree with anon on this one. What I recall of Maharishi 
saying about caste was just that, that society operates most 
efficiently when family dharmas are maintained. 

Does this provide huge potential for abuse? Of course. Look what has 
happened both in India and Britain where the class/caste system is 
used not to promote the well being of society, but to 'keep people 
in their place'. Really damaging stuff.

On the other hand, what MMY is talking about in a practical way is 
really just common sense, that someone coming from a family of 
writers for example, may encounter a great difficulty in becoming an 
Indy 500 race car driver.  





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