On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:33 PM, sparaig wrote:

> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Wallace, in the aforementioned article, states that a
> purification
> > > > does happen once one sustains the state for extended periods:
> > > >
> > > > "With the attainment of the ninth state called balanced
> placement,
> > > > accomplished
> > > > with the force of familiarization, only an initial impulse of
> will
> > > > and effort is needed at
> > > > the beginning of each meditation session; for after that,
> > > > uninterrupted, sustained at-
> > > > tention occurs effortlessly. Moreover, the engagement of the
> will,
> > > of
> > > > effort, and inter-
> > > > vention at this point is actually a hindrance. It is time to let
> > > the
> > > > natural balance of the
> > > > mind maintain itself without interference.
> > >
> > > Which happens all the time, from the start, with TM...
> >
> > People transcend from the start of their practice, for the length
> of
> > their entire meditation session, i.e. they transcend 20 minutes at
> a
> > time or hours at a time if they wish?
> >
>
> And you have documentation of this? And this voluntary transcending
> turns into spontaneous transcending for months and years at a time as
> documented where?

LOL. You're the one who said you could do that with TM from the  
beginning...

Hang around some other meditators, you might learn a thing or two or  
three...



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