--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:33 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:49 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wallace, in the aforementioned article, states that a > > > > > purification does happen once one sustains the state for > > > > > extended periods: "With the attainment of the ninth state > > > > > called balanced placement, accomplished with the force of > > > > > familiarization, only an initial impulse of will and > > > > > effort is needed at the beginning of each meditation > > > > > session; for after that, uninterrupted, sustained at- > > > > > tention occurs effortlessly. Moreover, the engagement of > > > > > the will, of effort, and intervention at this point is > > > > > actually a hindrance. It is time to let the natural > > > > > balance of the mind maintain itself without interference. > > > > > > > > Which happens all the time, from the start, with TM... > > > > > > People transcend from the start of their practice, for the > > > length of their entire meditation session, i.e. they transcend > > > 20 minutes at a time or hours at a time if they wish? > > > > And you have documentation of this? And this voluntary > > transcending turns into spontaneous transcending for months and > > years at a time as documented where? > > LOL. You're the one who said you could do that with TM from the > beginning...
I'm virtually positive you're well aware that is *not* what Lawson was saying, Vaj. Look at the quote he was responding to. He's saying "natural balance of the mind" is maintained "without interference" from the beginning in TM. And in any case, Wallace isn't talking about transcending in that quotation, he's talking about maintaining attention on the object. > Hang around some other meditators, you might learn a thing or two > or three... Translation: No, Vaj has no documentation of this. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
