--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 17, 2006, at 7:22 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2006, at 1:08 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > > There's plenty of people who claim plenty of things. However, > > I'm > > > > > > still waiting for documentation of your claim as in research > > > > > > published in peer reviewed journals. > > > > > > > > > > And why are you waiting for that? > > > > > > > > > > You need to get out more dude. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In other words, you don't have any evidence of your claims beyond > > Ken > > > > Wilber playing games with a home EEG machine. > > > > > > > > > LOL. No I'm just not obsessed with the map, I prefer the territory > > > itself. > > > > > > Why are you so shocked about this? Has TM conditioned you to > > believe > > > people *can't* transcend for more than a couple of minutes of > > apnea? > > > It really seems to other you what Wallace is saying. Shouldn't we > > all > > > be happy? > > > > > > > I suspect that what you call transcending is not the same as what > > TMers call transcending. Given that TMers don't report transcending > > during TM until after-the-fact, this is hardly surprising... > > It'd probably depend on what *style* of shamatha you were doing. For > ex. there is a form of shamatha that traces the seed syllable back to > it's source--silence--much like TM. >
TM *can* do this. Is this the goal of this style of meditation, or is it merely a description of an idealized outcome? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
