--- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sparaig wrote:
> > Of course, there's no evidence that "transcendence style
> > meditation" has anything to do with TM.
> >
> There is plenty of evidence that TM is "transcendence style" Buddhist 
> meditation. The first historical yogin in India was Shakya the Muni. 
> Meditation is first mentioned, not in the Vedas, but in the Buddha's 
> discourses. TM is a mechanical process which is based on Causation.
>

Perhaps, but if you read what Vaj referred to, the description starts 
out sounding like its talking about TM and then gets all bogged down in 
effort/control/appropriate tension, etc. A typical telephone effect 
description of TM, IMHO.






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