--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <jyouells@> > wrote: > > > > > > Judy, > > > > Wilber talks extensively about his experience of witnessing. > > > > From his writings it's pretty clear he has the experience. > > > > > > I don't believe I suggested that Wilber didn't have > > > the experience of witnessing, so I'm not sure of the > > > relevance of this to what I said. > > > > > > > Oops, sparaig, said it not you... Sorry 'bout that miscounted my > >>'s > > Gotcha. But I don't think that's what Lawson was saying > either. I think he was simply saying the little machine > Wilber was using to monitor his brainwaves doesn't prove > he was witnessing. > > After all this time, if Wilber isn't having witnessing > experience, something's wrong! And his descriptions > certainly do ring true. But that might or might not > show up on his homemade EEG machine; it's just too crude. > Lawson said: "Right. My point was that Vaj is claiming he can emulate the TM EEG signature *during meditation*, but even if he can, that wouldn't necessarily mean he could also emulate it *during activity*."
Based on the video clips that Vaj has posted and the ease that he can move from state to state at will, I'd certainly bet that he can and has. (I'd bet he's been measured on more sensitive instruments as well) I thought he's mentioned being involved in the developement of those machhines. They were probably developed using a more sophisticated EEG machine as a baseline. It doesn't *necessarly* mean he could, but don't underestimate what he did with a few seconds transition. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
