On Apr 18, 2006, at 12:35 PM, authfriend wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
> >
> > > > > I suspect that what you call transcending is not the same as
> > > > > what TMers call transcending. Given that TMers don't report
> > > > > transcending during TM until after-the-fact, this is hardly
> > > > > surprising...
> > > >
> > > > It'd probably depend on what *style* of shamatha you were doing.
> > > > For ex. there is a form of shamatha that traces the seed
> > > > syllable back to it's source--silence--much like TM.
> > >
> > > TM *can* do this. Is this the goal of this style of meditation,
> > > or is it merely a description of an idealized outcome?
> >
> > It's just one of the styles of shamatha, that's all--the beginning
> > part.
>
> That wasn't the question.  Lawson specified that it
> was one of the styles.  He's asking if what you
> describe is (a) the *goal* of this style, or (b)
> a potential outcome.
>
> In other words, is "tracing the seed syllable back to
> its source" a PREscription, or a DEscription?
>
> > Don't get so stuck in your paradigm.
>
> Why are you so reluctant to answer the queston?  It's
> a pretty simple one.

Plurium interrogationum. 


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