--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Apr 18, 2006, at 12:35 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > I suspect that what you call transcending is not the same 
as
> > > > > > what TMers call transcending. Given that TMers don't 
report
> > > > > > transcending during TM until after-the-fact, this is 
hardly
> > > > > > surprising...
> > > > >
> > > > > It'd probably depend on what *style* of shamatha you were 
doing.
> > > > > For ex. there is a form of shamatha that traces the seed
> > > > > syllable back to it's source--silence--much like TM.
> > > >
> > > > TM *can* do this. Is this the goal of this style of 
meditation,
> > > > or is it merely a description of an idealized outcome?
> > >
> > > It's just one of the styles of shamatha, that's all--the 
beginning
> > > part.
> >
> > That wasn't the question.  Lawson specified that it
> > was one of the styles.  He's asking if what you
> > describe is (a) the *goal* of this style, or (b)
> > a potential outcome.
> >
> > In other words, is "tracing the seed syllable back to
> > its source" a PREscription, or a DEscription?
> >
> > > Don't get so stuck in your paradigm.
> >
> > Why are you so reluctant to answer the queston?  It's
> > a pretty simple one.
> 
> Plurium interrogationum.

So prove me wrong, and answer it.

>






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