>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 23, 2006, at 4:40 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
> >
> > > Because its inconvenient? To have some non-subjective
> > > non-self-interpreative means to point to higher states?
> > >
> > > Objective reality gets in the way of some story-tellers -- which
> to
> > > them [the stories] form a higher truth than measurement, multi-
> party
> > > verification or repeatability.
> > >
> > > Fred Travis' work is interesting. Though I have not dug that
> deeply
> > > into it. But physiological correlates to higher states and "more
> > > refined functioning of the nervous system" has always a theme with
> > > MMY, even back in the 60s.
> > >
> > > Its not clear why many appear so harsh, or negatively reactive
> about
> > > MMY's theme of siddhi's performance and higher states. (And I have
> > > heard him say it.)
> >
> > As was shared on here a while back, even in recent times when
> masters
> > have claimed enlightenment, the test almost always involved some
> > performance of siddhi.
> >
> > Since yogic flying belongs to yoga-darshana, it's only sensible to
> > say that's part of CC a la Patanjali, not Brahmi-chetana (Unity).
>
> Performance of the siddhis during sutra practice may not be brahmi-
> chetna, but what of someone who can just spontaneously manifest
> any/all of them?
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > Its not clear why Fred and his gear are not invited to Satsangs.
> Maybe
> > > he has been. Or maybe its the same propensity for stories over
> > > measurement, multi-party verification or repeatability.
> >
> > Interesting question!
>
> Fred Travis probably wouldn't be willing to attend due to the
> political issues in Fairfield, but there ARE researchers into these
> kinds of things, including some with better resources than Fred and
> friends, who would be willing to test the Satsang/Deeksha claims if
> invited.
Well then. I guess we are just waiting for invitations from satsang,
diksha and other groups. Now that they know, I am sure we will see a
floodgate of invites. Who specifically should they talk to?
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