>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
>
> > Barry's description of what happens on Google is
> > very accurate. The rating feature was introduced
> > fairly recently, about a month ago, I think, and
> > after a flurry of use in the beginning, it's pretty
> > much ignored now.
>
> If its ignored, then its just the same as it is now here, that is no
> improvement, nor a worsening.
You asked whether it was used or not.
<snip>
> > Over on the blog Daily Kos, which also has a detailed
> > rating system, there are periodic complaints that
> > people will down-rate a comment simply because they
> > disagree with the author's point of view rather than
> > because they don't think the comment is well done.
>
> But do they have a twofold rating system, like I suggested with
> positive and negative votes?
It's even more detailed than that.
> > There's plenty of disagreement on Daily Kos, but not
> > as much factionalization per se--i.e., personal
> > hostility--as there is even on FFL.
>
> The point is that even though the system might be misused to
> downrate a view, it still could take that traffic away from the
> thread, as people now don't have to comment anymore, to express
> their disagreement.
I want to know *why* people disagree or agree, not just
*that* they agree or disagree. I also want to know *who*
is agreeing or disagreeing.
> > The problem with a rating system is that it's all too
> > easy for folks to misuse to vent their spleen,
> > particularly because it's so anonymous. And it
> > could really intimidate folks from speaking up who
> > didn't have a thick skin.
>
> But thats even so now with comments.
Comments are not anonymous, and they usually include
reasons for liking or disliking, as I went on to say:
> > At least if someone makes
> > a post in response that dumps on yours, they have
> > to give some reasons, and you can evaluate their
> > comments in light of the body of their postings.
> > With an anonymous rating system, you can't do that,
> > obviously.
>
> > Also, given, as you note, that such a system would
> > be available only on the Web interface, it would give
> > those who read this forum on the Web a disproportionate
> > say. I don't know who-all reads on the Web (I do), but
> > they're not necessarily representative of the entire
> > group, so it might produce a "sense of the meeting"
> > that was significantly distorted.
>
> I think no rating system could be truely objective. But it possibly
> could give people some kind of clue, and an incentive to writers to
> improve. That could be worth a try. And even think of it, lets say
> there is a 'Yahoo best rated of the day' or 'Yahoo spiritual bets
> rated', it could really change the way we get to know of things.
>
> > Personally, if I *had* to rate each post before I could
> > move on to the next, I'd probably quit the forum rather
> > than have to deal with such a pain in the butt.
>
> No that would be absurd. Such a system could only function in a work
> situation. In addition, a lack of votes is an additional information
> about the importance of the post. Btw. I give you two stars ;-)
Sorry, but I think it's a really dumb idea. To
work as you envision, it would have to be more
complicated than most people would bother with,
and I don't think it would be any more effective
at evaluating posts than what we have now.
I think it would also be likely to curtail open
discussion, and the forum would be a lot less
interesting as a result. The people who would use
it would be those who didn't want to bother to write
a reasoned response but who just couldn't stand not
to have their opinion registered--in other words,
the least thoughtful, most egocentric participants
would be the ones who used it.
And my guess is it would be used more to disapprove
than to approve.
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