--- In [email protected], new_morning_blank_slate
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My points, interspersed are not meant as argumentative. But they
seek
> to put in fuller light some delicious contradictions still
remaining.
> Which may be "real", or artifacts of language or loopy logic.

Hi, just a note here that last night I read this entire posting and
found it very compelling. I responded to it point for point, then
when I hit 'send', my connection to the server had been lost, and it
all disappeared into the ether, unrecoverable.

Rather than try to reconstruct all of that, I wanted to just restate
a couple of points that I made. It is often said that any
description of IT, the Self, or consciousness awake unto itself, can
encompass two logically opposed points of view, and therefore any
description of IT is illogical, and therefore meaningless.

So, rather than being illogical, i.e. crazy or random, any
comprehensive description of IT is instead super-logical, because it
does comfortably and completely encompass both logical points of
view of any description of it. This is because it has a relative
value and an absolute value.

Analogous to your description below of the sun apparently rising and
setting, this phenomenon is experienced subjectively as the sun
revolving around the earth, and objectively known as the earth
revolving around the sun.

Both realities are true; one is relative, and the other is absolute.
They are completely contradictory, and yet we can experience both of
them, depending on our point of view at the time.

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