>
>
> On May 21, 2006, at 10:34 AM, authfriend wrote:
>
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 21, 2006, at 4:12 AM, sparaig wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > Domash, IIRC, suggested that the Maharishi Effect might have an N-
> > > > squared version, but
> > > > he didn't buy into MMY's ideas about Quantum Mechanics.
> > >
> > > Neither did Hagelin till he was told "make it work, or you're out
> > > of here".
> >
> > That's demonstrably inaccurate, Vaj. As you know,
> > your claim was very thoroughly debunked over on
> > alt.m.t.
>
>
> It was actually discussed here, not there, where people privy to such
> information discussed and revealed the knowledge of how TM research
> was unduly influenced, biased and falsified for profit and access to
> the teacher.
Perhaps you could remind of us of where this was established, rather than asserted?
perhaps you can show where research on TM conducted inside or outside of MUM/MIU in
the last 15 years or so fits this bill? Please recall that fudged research published in peer-
reviewed articles can result in fines, loss of future grants, and even jail-time in the most
extreme cases.
The editors of the various peer-reviewed journals that have published research on TM
would be most interested in any evidence that you have that this is the case.
>
> > > Interesting 'cause it may give an essential insight into how
> > > TM research is fudged: make it work or else you're out of here.
> >
> > Except that wasn't the case.
>
> I'm sorry you missed the discussion where this knowledge was brought
> out. Self-serving bias is one of the many valid criticisms of TM
> pseudoscience.
>
*I* have been around for quite a bit of the discussions in the past few months or however
long its been since I joined FFL and I don't recall any credible evidence beyond innuendo
that can be refuted simply by someone else saying "that's not what I recall happening" as
David Orme-Johnson has done on his website. Just because you assert something and
ignore countering arguments and evidence, doesn't mean that what you assert is
"knowledge" that has been "brought out."
>
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