>
> --- In
> [email protected], "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> <tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@> wrote:
> >
> > blissbunn1 writes snipped:
> > Whoever asked about how many meditators, siddha's, teachers yadda
> > yadda had abusive childhoods is on to a very illuminating thesis.
> > Do you think a study like that could be included in the collected
> > research on TM?
> >
> > Tom T:
> > From my 12 year experience in Alanon 12 step it would appear to me
> > that virtualy all of us were attracted to the movement because of
> > our
> > abusive backgrounds. Not only were most of us that way but it would
> > appear from my 7 year residency here that the unhealthiest of us
> > ended
> > up moving to FF to get to the bottom of our issues. It would never
> > fly as research on campus but you don't have to talk to very many
> > people to realize that we all came with a heavy load of karma. \
>
> 'Way too much self importance here for me.
>
> I never had the least hint of an abusive life. I think
> the person who originally postulated that theory got
> it *backwards*. People are drawn to TM and movements
> like it because they're *used* to them, but not from
> this life.
>
> That is, they've paid their dues in so many monastic,
> reclusive spiritual communities over the incarnations
> that the first time one appears in one's current life-
> time one tends to glom onto it, thinking it will be
> like the communities one hazily remembers from previous
> lives. Sigh...obviously t'ain't always so.
>
> Then again, maybe all those lives in Asian monastic
> communities weren't nearly as problem-free as we like
> to tell ourselves, either.
>
> Anyway, I just had to go on record as saying that for
> once I completely disagree with Tom T. That's so rare
> it deserved a post. :-)
I brought this topic up originally. Clearly not everyone deep in the
tmo has an abusive past, but having lived in ffld off and on for 30
yrs, it's obviously one of the major common threads among the sidhas
here, with family alcoholism being way up there. I don't have a link
right now, but I've seen a research survey of one of big
fundamentalist mega-churches (heavy into rapture, apocalypse stuff)
and the members were found to be average on most all socio-economic
factors, except about 75% were raised in alcoholic families and close
to 50% of the females had sexual abuse. To me this explained alot
about how people get heavy into these authoritarian culty imminent
salvation belief systems. I'd put the alcoholic family background of
ffld sidhas at over 50% and ex-mother divine friends of mine put the
childhood sexual abuse in that group at about 50% also.
Tom's idea of sidhas gathering in ffld to get to the bottom of these
issues is interesting -- just as this migration was underway in the
early 80s, the tmo was really getting strict against doing any other
activities and coming up with black lists accordingly, and so many
people were in fact not getting their issues resolved, but staying
stuck in the false belief that they could transcend their way out.
Perhaps there's some connection here -- either you start facing up to
and dealing with emotional issues or you get heavier into culty group
think that enable you to suppress them better and perpetuate the
endless belief in imminent salvation through bigger groups, pundits
coming or whatever else out there.
In her comprehensive book on Kundalini, Joan Harrigan points out that
early abusive or intense emotional experiences in children can produce
a premature and unstable kundalini rising. This can lead to an
interest in things spiritual or monastic, though the path may be
difficult unless the original abuse is dealt with. So there can be
some connection between attraction to and familiarity with spiritual
settings and difficult childhoods.
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