<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@>
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Every Memorial Day we hear that myth about those who
> > > have fallen fighting for "our freedom." Believe me
> > > nobody ever died fighting for "our freedom."
> >
> > The vast majority of them fought and died because
> > they were told to and had so little imagination
> > that it never occurred to them that they could
> > say no, to conscription and to the whole stupid
> > business of war.
> >
> > But mark my words, you're gonna get a lot of flak
> > here for saying this, from those with just as
> > little imagination, who are upset that you choose
> > to rock the boat when they are afraid to.
>
> Barry, your policy of non-violence is the best one...
I never said I believed exclusively in non-violence.
> ...just lay down
> your arms...refuse to serve...and, hey, if everyone will
> do it, peace will reign.
I didn't say this, either.
> There's just one small problem: it takes EVERYONE to do it.
No, it really doesn't. Wars are *declared*; they
just don't happen. If the leaders of a nation
attempt to declare a war and the cannon fodder
of that nation refuse to become cannon fodder,
the leaders can't have their war.
It always starts with the agressor nation. The
people who agree to be part of the agression
are 'enabling' the behavior of the leaders who
goad them into it.
But even once into it, they can always stop and
say "No." One of the things that isn't getting
much media play in the US but is here in Europe
is the number of American soldiers in Iraq going
AWOL when they get their first leave.
The Army has actually stopped sending most of
them home to the US for leave, because they've
come to realize that a certain percentage of
them never come back. So instead the Army is
paying to send the soldiers' families over to
US bases in Germany, and sending the soldiers
there to visit with them. They've found that
this cuts down the number of people jumping
ship.
I have a friend who lives in Germany and,
because she is fluent in German, French and
English, makes her living as a tour guide for
a company near one of these bases there in
Germany. So on every one of her tours there
are soldiers from Iraq and their families.
*Also* on every one of her tours are one or
two MPs, who are paid to go along and make
sure no one "gets off the bus" somewhere along
the way. Fascinating world we live in, eh?
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