On Jun 5, 2006, at 7:36 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: > --- In [email protected], "vajradhatu108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], new_morning_blank_slate > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Which is fine. My primary hypothesis, which you have provided no > > > evidence of substance to counter is that i) it is possible M. had > > > knowledge of multiple, if not many real tantric practices, > including > > > the small subset related to sex and union and flows, and ii) its > > > possible he expermiented or practiced such in his > encounters,and iii) > > > maybe it was raw sensual sex. > > > > > > If you have any such evidence that it was i) NOT possible M. had > > > knowledge of multiple, if not many real tantric practices, > including > > > the small subset related to sex and union and flows, and ii) > its NOT > > > possible that he expermiented or practiced such in his > encounters, and > > > iii) OR that maybe it was NOT raw sensual sex, then provide away. > > > > > > > Once again, ANYTHING is possible, some things are more probable. > > It's highly improbable > > M. is a tantric adept, > > BZZZZ! Red herring alert. :) No need to be a tantric adept to have > some basic knowledge of sexual tantra.
So are you implying sexual tantra is generally practiced by beginners or those of intermediate experience? Oh please, I've been reading your red herring soup all day! > > >for the numerous valid reasons I've already given. But it would be > > helpful to have a clearer blow-by-blow description from one of the > > ladies involved. ;-) > > You perv! :) Maybe you and shemp can watch after the math teacher > student video. :) I'm sorry that's over my head. > > > > One further comment. Most tantra which is of a sexual nature also > requires a > > corresponding female adept, > > Hey Jennifer was WAY adept (at overflowing in shakti). Oh, you mean > like a tantric adept. Never mind > > I mean, where is a girl going to learn these things!!?? if some kindly > teacher type isn't going to show them. > > I bet MGM offers to initiate the inexperienced non-adepts into the > practice. Maybe you could be his sponsor? ;-) > > >otherwise there is utter imbalance in the equation. > > So Muktanada's 16 yr olds were tantra adepts? Come on!!! Again, an important fine point. Muktananda claimed to be doing yoni- puja on these women AND practicing urdhva-retas on these kids. And first hand accounts tend to bear this out, that is they were congruent with someone who was practicing vajroli. Interestingly this practiceis also considered helpful in being able to perform shaktipat, so there is a practical connection there (which of course also makes it much more difficult for these ladies to process their trauma). > > And I know of a sexual tantra adeptress in the Bay Area willing to > teach even the most unadept. Please don't forget to write. > > Maybe part of adeptness is being able to balance things out even with > the less adept. > > I mean if ALL sexual trantic adepts had to be full adepts before they > practiced any sexual tantric practices, we have a real chicken and egg > problem here, don't we! ED Not necessarily. The tantric adepts I know have spent decades learning and actually balancing their energies and kundalini--and how to move it through the various conduits of the body. They have detailed experiential knowledge of sexual energy and the pranas. When it comes time to use or be a mudra, they already well know what is necessary. In other words these are like spiritual olympic athletes. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
