--(below, can I refute the MMY/Hagelin/Chopra "Unified Field" 
theory?).  I don't have to refute what's self-evident baloney!. 


- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor" 
<matrixmonitor@> wrote:
> [...]
> >  I'm also planning on presenting some summaries of other recent
> > articles, from New Scientist and Scientific American; that tend to
> > support a basis for a "New, New, Physics" as opposed to the "New
> > Physics" propounded by MMY and a few other people during the 70's.
> > (specifically, such persons equated "Being" with some QM entity). 
This
> > attempt at equating the Unmanifest with something within the 
realm of
> > science, bombed; as we know; and such persons could have saved
> > themselves the trouble of promoting that false identity if they 
had
> > only paid more attention to the writings of the original quantum
> > pioneers such as Schroedinager, Bohr, Heisenberg, and DeBroglie. 
The
> > original pioneers already were aware of the possibility of 
equating
> > some QM "entity" (a field?) to the Unmanifest, but the notion was
> > rejected on the grounds that any such QM entity discovered so far 
is
> > strictly a relative phenomenon. OTOH, some QM principles 
may "point"
> > to the Unmanifest in some analogous way; but one must be careful 
about
> > proclaiming an actual identity when none is there.  There's 
always the
> > danger that noble intentions can cross the boundary into "Ignoble"
> > science, as Dr. Hagelin found out.(1994).
> 
> 
> Dr. Hagelin's Ig Noble award came for his Maharishi Effect 
research, and was awarded 
> BEFORE the research was published, BTW, so it was based on media 
accounts and not the 
> actual published study (whether this would make a difference to 
skeptics or not is 
> immaterial --the research wasn't published at that point and 
shouldn't have been eligible 
> in the first place).
> 
> And its not "a field" that is considered "the Unmanifest" but "The" 
Unified Field. You've 
> read Hagelin's paper "Is Consciousness the Unified Field?" and can 
refute it, I take it?
>







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