nablus108 wrote:

>--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
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>>>On Jun 20, 2006, at 7:24 PM, sparaig wrote:
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>>>>--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
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>>>>>The new issue of What Is Enlightenment? has an article on SSRS 
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>which
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>>>>>says he has instructed over 20 million people in meditation.
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>>>>>Is that more than TM?
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>>>>>He's also had  2.5 million people show up for a massive 
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>meditation
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>>>>>session last February 17 in his hometown of Bangalore!
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>>>>>Way to go Ravi!
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>>>>BTW, where is the independent Indian newspaper coverageof this 
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>2.5  
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>>>>million person
>>>>meditation. Even by Hindu standards, that's a HUGE gathering 
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>of  
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>>>>people. And, unless most of
>>>>them are from Bangalore, that's a HUGE strain on the local  
>>>>infrastructure. How many broken
>>>>sewer lines? How many new turds floating in the street's open  
>>>>sewers, etc? Where did the
>>>>water come from? The food? The parking? The housing?
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>>>The WIE article has details. There's lot of stuff you don't see--
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>like  
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>>>him sending delegations volatile Kashmir, etc.
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>>The WIE has details provided by him and his people. Where's the 
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>independent articles?
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>This Ravi Shankar thing is mainly moodmaking; look into each others 
>eyes and tell them you love them, hold each others hands and form a 
>circle, blabla etcetc. The technique is far from what has been 
>described as TM+advanced technique; it's just a simple pranayama, and 
>Ravi is just a simple, but probably nice fellow that needs to do some 
>serious sadhana.
> 
>In a talkshow I watched in India he was asked how it felt to be a 
>guru. He blushed intensely, denying he was a guru, the whole thing 
>got very comical. The fellow abviously wants to be a guru, but does 
>not have the credidentials.
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He may not have the credentials to be *saint* but he has the credentials 
to be a guru.  Westerners have perverted the meaning of "guru" which 
means someone who has mastered something and teaches it.  If you 
mastered a certain style of playing guitar and people wanted to learn 
from you then you are a genuine "guru" of that method.  Westerners don't 
want gurus but "pop saints."




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