--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> > >> Because we should realize and make the connection that 
> *dualistic
> > >> methods lead to dualistic states of consciousness* (e.g. the
> > >> witnessing artifact, which is an artifact of a dualistic
> > >> meditation method).
> > >
> 
> You are absolutely right. However both the dualistic nature of 
this  
> meditation [TM] and the witnessing artifact are indicators of the 
> state of consciousness of the practitioner at an intermediate stage 
> of the practice, vs. the solely dualistic nature of TM. 
> 
> TM is initially and necessarily experienced as meditation of a 
> dualistic nature because its practice subjects the active mind to 
> its silent source. As the practice matures, the active mind and 
> silent source exist simultaneously, dissolving the dualistic nature 
> of both the experience and the meditation.
> 
> Did you hear that TM is a dualistic meditation from someone? If so, 
> I'd be curious to know who.

Vaj used to be a TM teacher.  You knew that, right?

>







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