--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:42 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:15 PM, authfriend wrote: <snip> > >>>>> Explain to us again (a) why we should be impressed > >>>>> that Wilber can do a "blank wave" on a home EEG > >>>>> unit; > >>>> > >>>> Because of the *style* of samadhi this is indicative of (to put > >>>> it in TM lingo) is that of Unity Consciousness. > >>> > >>> And we know that a "blank wave" on a home EEG unit is > >>> indicative of a Unity Consciousness style of samadhi > >>> because...? > >> > >> Apparently someone needs to do some research! > > > > Well, do it then, for goodness' sake! > > I'm quite happy (TM trans.:blissful) with what I've found thank you!
Vaj, you really do seem to be having trouble focusing here. Let me help you out. Here was my question: We know that a "blank wave" on a home EEG unit is indicative of a Unity Consciousness style of samadhi because...? If you don't know the answer and don't want to bother to find out, just say so. (I mean, you could always get in touch with Wilber. You're on first-name terms with him, after all.) > >>>> However it should also be noted this relates to a different > >>>> path than -> PC -> CC -> eventually leads to UC. > >>> > >>> It sure is. > >> > >> Is it? > > > > Of course. > > Uh huh. If you didn't think it was, why did you say it in the first place? Maybe you just need more sleep or something. Perhaps some B-12 might help, juice those synpases up a little. <snip> > >>>>> and (b) why we should be disheartened (or > >>>>> gleeful, if we're TM critics) that we've never heard > >>>>> of a TMer doing a "blank wave"? > >>>> > >>>> Because we should realize and make the connection that *dualistic > >>>> methods lead to dualistic states of consciousness* (e.g. the > >>>> witnessing artifact, which is an artifact of a dualistic > >>>> meditation method). > >>> > >>> But which (as you know, and just said above) is a > >>> transitional feature in terms of UC. > >> > >> I assume you are referring to GC? > > > > GC?? > > GC = "God Consciousness" Yes, Vaj, I know what it stands for. What I can't figure out is why you thought I was referring to it, you see. <snip> > >> I'm sorry I don't buy the GC fallacy Mahesh has fed you. > >> > >> Either would Shankara... > > > > I think you've lost the thread here, Vaj. Why don't > > you just go and do your research and then come back > > and tell us what you've found out? > > > >>> We still need to know, however, why a "blank wave" on a > >>> home EEG machine should be assumed to represent a nondual > >>> state of consciousness (and presumably why "nonblank waves" > >>> on a home EEG machine should be assumed to represent a > >>> dualistic state of consciousness). > >> > >> Like I said, if you do not understand *why*, it sounds like you > >> need to do some more hunting--or some more exploration in terms > >> of the *spectrum* of meditative practices... No, no. It was *your* claim. If you don't understand it yourself and aren't willing to do the research necessary to explain and defend it, why on earth should anyone take it seriously? <snip> > >> If you don't "get this", that's fine. It's probably just an > >> artifact of your paradigm. > > > > What paradigm would that be, Vaj, the English language? > > > > Not unusual for people who are indoctrinated in > >> *any* school of thought (or belief). > > > > LOL!! > > Do I detect a hint of bliss? I suppose it's unkind to laugh at you, but I just can't help it. > >> That's why yogis who practice the path of Unity Consciousness > >> emphatically say "don't get caught in a "school"". > > > > I bet they also don't have any trouble answering > > questions, either. > > Of course not, in a language foreign to most...not merely the Van > Gogh's with *one* ear... Now you're hallucinating, for pete's sake. More sleep, Vaj, you definitely need more sleep. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
