Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

[Vaj]

On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:49 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Well, that's a long story I wouldn't recount here Jim, but yes it  is   by it's very nature. But I do feel the sequence of meditation  given   in Dzogchen Semde (Skt: Chittamatra) does elucidate the path from   dualistic to inseparability to "self-perfection": -quiescence/transcendence (TM) -Vipasyana -non-dual -self arising perfection I respectfully disagree with the placement of TM on this path. Just  because there is an initial and unmistakable dualistic nature to the  beginning practice of TM, or possibly any mantra meditation, the  achievable goal of TM is to experience a non-dual state, whereby the  experience of the mantra, the pure empty mind, and the active mind  are all experienced as one, each supprted experientially by the  source of mind. Limiting the experience of TM to that of just  transcendence is only seeing a partial picture. But indeed this is where it would go in this particular sequence, as that is the style of meditation, shamatha. That's also not to say this cannot be a complete path in and of itself, it is (as we've talked on here before). However in the larger scheme of things, that's where it goes. One could argue that samyama to a certain extent constitutes a form of vipashyana but that's where it ends IMO.  Incidentally, that should have been Chittamarga, not Chittamatra. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___