--- In [email protected], gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > > > > > > Seems like MMY likes all the benefits of having > > > disciples, but he accepts none of the reponsibility of > > > having disciples. > > > > > sounds like saying a tree likes all the benefits of having leaves, > but > > accepts none of the responsibility of having leaves, because they > drop > > off in the Fall. > > Does sound that way, but in Mahesh's case it's much more a matter > of "you owe me everything and I owe you nothing". He'd be only too > delighted to have you (or preferably someone important) as a disciple > as long as and only as long as you were doing something for him. The > moment you stop, like a leaf in the fall, you drop. > > One of Mahesh's close advisors who helped him with the SCI course in > Fiuggi said after that Mahesh treated people like orange slices, he > sucked out the juice and tossed the peel. > > Ask not for whom the bell peals, it peals for thee!
There is a huge disconnect here, IMO. The discussion is on disciples -- which I took to mean people who have tken formal vows of bramacharaya directly from Maharishi and have served him for years. You refer to advisors to MMY. Quite different categories in my view. But there may be some overlap. I think a few like Shannon, Rob, Louis, Billie, Johny etc. took vows and some of these may have been seen as "advisors" at Fuiggi. However, none of these western bramacharayas lasted as such more than a year or two. Either they left (Shannon, Rob and Louis's case as I recall), or MMY sent them out to the field -- "message recieved" -- as was the case with Billie as I recall. The issue, as I understand it, was about longer term "disciples". These IMO are those who have taken formal vows of service/bramacharaya and have lasted more than 5 years or so. Nakishore, Satyand, Bevan come to mind as possibly meeting this criteria. My question to Peter did he hear directly from any long-term disciples that MMY accepts none of the reponsibility of having disciples. Or is it simply baseless speculation? I am aware that most of the short-lived disciples felt things along the lines of "Mahesh treated people like orange slices, he sucked out the juice and tossed the peel." And IMO these are lovely articulate people. I don't discount their personal observation and views. However, they do not represent long-term disciples. Now if you are rasing Devendra as as case, you may have a point. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
